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post #1 of 20 Old 12-15-2013, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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U-Turns From A Stop

Some roads here in north Georgia are narrower than the 20-24 feet curb to curb found on "standard" roadways. Sometimes conditions call for reversing direction and the multi-point turn, where there is a pronounced crown on the road, can be hard on the legs. I'd prefer to do a u-turn but find that from a stop I can usually turn within 16 feet, but feel tighter is possible, but the high COG has me reluctant to lean the bike way over at a stop.
What have you found to be the tightest u-turn you can make consistently, on your V-Strom, from a stop? What technique do you use?

All this assumes a u-turn CCW from the right side of the road.

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post #2 of 20 Old 12-15-2013, 03:48 PM
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I never measured and I dont tell I'm particulary good, but i think it's under 16 feet, and the technique is called (translated from french) counterweight.
You have to shift your weight outside (your body) so the bike lean inside, wich lead to tighter turn.
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When moving forward I do this but from a stopped position my left foot is on the ground so I can't position my body very far to the right. All this assumes a u-turn CCW from the right side of the road.
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There is another method to turn a motorcycle around 'on a dime'. (The kickstand turn)

Basically, you put the weight of the bike on the kickstand and 'spin' the entire thing around using the kickstand as the pivot-point.

There are several videos on youTube showing this technique.
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Since I took the Basic Rider Course, I go out sometimes and just ride really slow in parking lots. I can consistently turn around in about one and a half parking spaces (15ft?). I haven't had to do a U-turn like that in my day-to-day travels, but I feel the counterweighting practice makes me a better rider.
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I wanted the Madmax U-Turn, but this will do, lol.
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I would be curious to watch this with bikes that have high CG like Vstrom

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post #8 of 20 Old 12-15-2013, 07:41 PM
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Have a look at this:

Montrose PD V-Strom - YouTube

And this rider is fairly competent on his DL650. Be sure to watch all 3 vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO87Ksb97Ic

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The Vee's are able to make a 15' turn at full lock, full lean. Proper technique for a tight left u turn from a stop is;
Right foot on rear brake
Bars at full lock left
Left foot on ground at a perpendicular angle to the bike
Bike at hard lean left
Head rotated to the intended direction of travel
Gas, friction zone and rear brake if needed while continuing full lock and lean and immediate placement of left foot on peg
Commitment and momentum are your friend

Although easily done with enough practice, begin with a lesser lean angle and bars not fully locked. This maneuver is highly prone to accidents or dropage, even with professionals.
Those of you quoting 15.5 and 16' turns should get some cones and a measuring tape before posting bragging rights. Even the old police competition courses set up for the KZP1000's were at 16.5'
In time, you can butt your front tire to the center of a 3' diam. Concrete parking lot light post support with hard bags on the bike and execute a u turn without scraping the bags on the concrete

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I agree with what you said and that's the way I attempt to execute the turrn from a stop.I'm encouraged to hear 16.5' is about what I can expect when all goes well. I have 20' marked and know I turn a few feet short of that but 16' for me may be an exaggeration.
I don't picture the maneuver you've described here in the quote.
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In time, you can butt your front tire to the center of a 3' diam. Concrete parking lot light post support with hard bags on the bike and execute a u turn without scraping the bags on the concrete
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