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post #1 of 11 Old 12-15-2013, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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Best riding advice ever

It took me years to undo my old habits I learned in the 70's. Here is the gospel that every rider should review.
Ken Hill & Nick Ienatsch Motorcycle Riding Seminar - YouTube

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It took me years to undo my old habits I learned in the 70's. Here is the gospel that every rider should review.
Ken Hill & Nick Ienatsch Motorcycle Riding Seminar - YouTube
Thanks for sharing. I think some of these techniques we learn over time on the bike but great highlights. BTW, fun to hear the name Scott Russell. I remember being enamoured with his riding career back in the late 80's early 90's riding for Team Muzzy. Seen him race GP at Laguna Seca a few times as well as AMA 750s. Great racing legacy. Happy to hear he is instructing on racing/riding techniques.

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post #3 of 11 Old 12-15-2013, 11:31 AM
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Thanks for the post. Regarding smooth throttle decrease to tighten turn radius, assuming you have risk (or traction %) points available, does this technique supersede using acceleration to force the bike into a tighter line ?
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Thanks for the post. Regarding smooth throttle decrease to tighten turn radius, assuming you have risk (or traction %) points available, does this technique supersede using acceleration to force the bike into a tighter line ?
I have watched a few too many bikes wadded up on the track due to applying power too soon in a turn.

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post #5 of 11 Old 12-15-2013, 12:06 PM
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There were some nuggets of wisdom in the Hill/Ienatsch video, without doubt. There was a clear infomercial dynamic in their interplay, too. This was distracting. It was likely a consequence of the seminar environment and, by extension, the perceived need to simplify (dilute) their experience so that all might have a chance to understand the data. I have an original, yellowed copy of "The Pace", so I know that Nick's place in the top tier is earned.

I hope that any tuition-based pro training courses in which I enroll have instructors with more tightly focused and higher level presentation skills. I would expect this to be so.
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Regarding smooth throttle decrease to tighten turn radius, assuming you have risk (or traction %) points available, does this technique supersede using acceleration to force the bike into a tighter line ?
Tighter line? My experience has always been that decreasing throttle tends to make the bike "dive in" to a corner, while adding throttle makes the bike want to "stand up" and increase the radius. Maybe I'm just dyslexic.:mrgreen:

But it's easy enough to test for yourself.

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Finally!

This is so satisfying to me! For years I've the heretic dragging some brake through a turn. Now? I'm a visionary! All kidding aside, this really works, but requires some serious practice.

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The keith code school seems to be almost totally backward to a lot of what these guys are saying, and in my opinion more logical. After all the twist of the wrist 2 video is awfully clear..
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post #9 of 11 Old 12-16-2013, 04:57 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I have always been so proud when I pop it upright to brake then lean again to turn. I've got to relearn!!
Fortunately, I have plenty of riding time to practice and the lesson is easy to understand.

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post #10 of 11 Old 12-16-2013, 05:20 PM
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This is a really good refresher... A lot of the times we let loose and let a lot of the training we get go..
Thanks for the refresher though!
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