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post #1 of 17 Old 09-01-2007, 02:50 PM Thread Starter
 
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Too Many Close Calls!

Has anybody else taken notice of all the close calls and crashes being reported in this forum? In my area the news seems to report a motorcycle fatality almost every day. I'm not willing to stop riding, even after my big crash. But these people on the roads are nuttier than ever.

Why? Here's a few opinionated guesses on my part......

1. Roads are in terrible shape.
2. Cell phones.
3. Young drivers no longer receive any formal driver's ed training.
4. Cops are dedicated to the war on drugs and not on traffic enforcement.
5. A general "I don't care about anybody but myself!" attitude in society.

What's your ideas?

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post #2 of 17 Old 09-01-2007, 02:56 PM
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Hell Cap,

Here in LA its damn near a daily occurance. Tuesday I had 30 miles left after returning from a 450 mile south bound run when some asshat text messaging on the Freeway almost sidswiped me in the carpool lane. I gave him a boot to the door and the finger, then powered off down the freeway. I'm holding steady at 6 times almost being hit while stopped at intersections in the last four months, and I finally stopped counting people trying to turn in front of me (right or left). let's face it, the retard cagers either don't see us, or don't care. Either way the only way to win is to watch their driving as much (or more) than your own. Never assume they will see you, or stop for you. The other part of this is don't ride scared. Fear will kill you just as quick as a stupid cager. Know how to ride and ride hard.
post #3 of 17 Old 09-01-2007, 02:59 PM
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Has anybody else taken notice of all the close calls and crashes being reported in this forum? In my area the news seems to report a motorcycle fatality almost every day. I'm not willing to stop riding, even after my big crash. But these people on the roads are nuttier than ever.

Why? Here's a few opinionated guesses on my part......

1. Roads are in terrible shape.
2. Cell phones.
3. Young drivers no longer receive any formal driver's ed training.
4. Cops are dedicated to the war on drugs and not on traffic enforcement.
5. A general "I don't care about anybody but myself!" attitude in society.

What's your ideas?
Same here in Finland, only exception in part 4. That should read; Cops are dedicated to the war on speeding traffic, (We have a campaign here, drive even 1kph over limit and you get a ticket).

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Has anybody else taken notice of all the close calls and crashes being reported in this forum? In my area the news seems to report a motorcycle fatality almost every day. I'm not willing to stop riding, even after my big crash. But these people on the roads are nuttier than ever.

Why? Here's a few opinionated guesses on my part......

1. Roads are in terrible shape.
2. Cell phones.
3. Young drivers no longer receive any formal driver's ed training.
4. Cops are dedicated to the war on drugs and not on traffic enforcement.
5. A general "I don't care about anybody but myself!" attitude in society.

What's your ideas?
1. Have you been to PA lately.
2. Yup.
3. No formal drivers ed., but there is a 6 month permit program where a parent needs to be with them whenever they are driving.
4. Or sleeping in construction areas collecting overtime.
5. Yup.
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Same here in Finland, only exception in part 4. That should read; Cops are dedicated to the war on speeding traffic, (We have a campaign here, drive even 1kph over limit and you get a ticket).
I was once stopped for speeding in Sweeden while doing 60kph over the limit. I was driving a German plated vehicle, speaking english, and using an international drivers license. That was certainly an exciting day that I won't soon forget. It was explained to me that exceeding the limit by 30 kph was a big deal and that I was going so fast they had no idea whet to do with me. I spent the entire day at the police station dealing with a special magistrate, an interpreter, and many swedish police officers. At one point they wanted to take the vehicle, but changed their minds when they found out it was a rental. In the end I paid what they considered to be a large fine and was offerd an escort out of the country. Since I was trying to get to Norway when I was stopped, I declined the escort offer and quicky left the station. I still have the ticket and a reminder of the occasion. I had been driving for 5 years in Germany when I was stopped in Sweden. Apparently I forgot that not all countries have no speed limits. Ah..... the good old days.....


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I was once stopped for speeding in Sweeden while doing 60kph over the limit. I was driving a German plated vehicle, speaking english, and using an international drivers license. That was certainly an exciting day that I won't soon forget. It was explained to me that exceeding the limit by 30 kph was a big deal and that I was going so fast they had no idea whet to do with me. I spent the entire day at the police station dealing with a special magistrate, an interpreter, and many swedish police officers. At one point they wanted to take the vehicle, but changed their minds when they found out it was a rental. In the end I paid what they considered to be a large fine and was offerd an escort out of the country. Since I was trying to get to Norway when I was stopped, I declined the escort offer and quicky left the station. I still have the ticket and a reminder of the behave nicsentensoccasion. I had been driving for 5 years in Germany when I was stopped in Sweden. Apparently I forgot that not all countries have no speed limits. Ah..... the good old days.....


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What we love to do is for sure a risk. But just try to ride as if you are invisible, and assume that somebody will pull out in front of you. I agree that a vast majority of people in cars these days, are serious asshats. Wayyyyyyyy too many distractions for people in cars these days, and there is a big "I own the road mentality". Just be careful out there!!!!!! I personally try to avoid people and cars all together, I can't always do that but I try to distance myself from cages.

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Don't forget about cops who kill motorcyclist. I will always give a cop the benefit of doubt, but the cop has no excuse in this case. Be sure to look at the graphic that goes with the story.

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I agree pretty much on everything that has been said, but cagers seem to notice me more on this bike than my last bike, an old CB900 Custom. Anybody else have that feeling? My theory is it's the headlights or maybe the height/size of the bike. I don't think the drivers around here are getting better or more attentive. They don't pull out in front of me as much, or turn in front of me as often, and everytime they are fixing to, they suddenly stop like they seen me at the last second, in the past, they just kept going, like I wasn't even there. I don't think it is my imagination but don't worry, I am not letting my guard down!

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Has anybody else taken notice of all the close calls and crashes being reported in this forum? In my area the news seems to report a motorcycle fatality almost every day. I'm not willing to stop riding, even after my big crash. But these people on the roads are nuttier than ever.

Why? Here's a few opinionated guesses on my part......

1. Roads are in terrible shape.
2. Cell phones.
3. Young drivers no longer receive any formal driver's ed training.
4. Cops are dedicated to the war on drugs and not on traffic enforcement.
5. A general "I don't care about anybody but myself!" attitude in society.

What's your ideas?

Firecaptp,

I'm fairly recent to joining the forum so I can't tell you that there is any increase or not being posted. I CAN definitely confirm that CELL PHONES are a huge culprit. No, not the phones, the people that use them while driving.

Start keeping mental notes as I have been since last summer and when you see someone "not seeing" in traffic, see if you can see a cell phone in their hand.

I really did start paying attention to it last year and it's a big percentage.....I
I'd be will to throw out a guess of 85% or higher. I don't count the "point and drive" people (which is the same as #5 above) that we have in the DC suburbs. I'm only watching the "didn't see till the last second and had to slam on the brakes" people. It also includes the "I change lanes while I talk on the phone" people.

Go ahead guys and start paying attention....you'll no doubt, see the same thing that I'm seeing. I only ride to work one day a week or so and other then that, most all of my riding is 2-up. So last year, I starting watching while driving my car or suv....and it's abominable the number of people that are paying attention to the phone rather then traffic while they drive around in a 1 to 3 ton car or SUV. I honestly can't wait till cell phones are outlawed while driving here.

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