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post #1 of 15 Old 11-18-2013, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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Another heated grips thread...confused



OK so next spring/summer we (dad and I) plan on another AK ride. This time we plan on adding in the Dalton and Dempster. While only one time did I get cold (ok maybe cold enough to warrant heated gear) was on our last trip and was only a short time. I'm thinking the rides up those roads may be a good excuse for me to add to my bike.

Dad purchased Gerbings jacket liner and gloves (already sent the gloves back due to a problem with them) So we are both also looking into heated grips. Plus that is a fair bit of coin I'd rather not spend (read that as I am cheap and have kids that take any extra cash I may "think" I have.)

So anyway I am confused. There are so many brands and version I am seeing.

I am leaning toward the Oxford grips because it has the controller and will auto power off (nice if your wanting to avoid a dead battery in the middle of nowhere) Also they have a visual that shows if they are an or off. However, there seem to be several versions of the same or similar oxford grips...?!?

Oxford Heaterz Premium Touring
Oxford Heaterz Premium Adventure
and the list goes on....

And then there us the Symtec ones...Again I think i would prefer the controller for reasons posted above. And I have heard they get hotter than the Oxfords (at least I think I read that) The big advantage I see here is I like my current grips and could keep them with this style. They seem more expensive with the controller vs the two position switch...


Did I mention I am confused...


So help me out is there a difference with all these Oxford ones or are they the same thing just a sales gimmick? And are there some advantage to the Symtec ones over the Oxford or are they about the same?

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I have Oxford on both bikes and they work fine. Heated grips are nice.... but I found that during winter riding at low temps they are lacking... I attached Hippo Hands and that combo works very well. Several versions much like the HH on the market and I've seen some clever self-construction types out of plastic milk jugs and zip ties.

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Heated grips are nice.... but I found that during winter riding at low temps they are lacking... I attached Hippo Hands and that combo works very well. Several versions much like the HH on the market and I've seen some clever self-construction types out of plastic milk jugs and zip ties.
I thought of those too. And may add them as well for the ride. I have some really nice heavy gloves too but when you ride in the rain at 40 degress or so it gets chilly. We rode down around freezing on our last trip heading in to our destination one night. That was the coldest I got. It was after running in rain an hour or less before. Got pretty chilly.

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Don't get hung up on the auto-off feature, heated gear should all be switched anyway.

Since you are running heated gear, you will want something like this to keep track of your battery/charging system. Search for these keywords:

SN9F Waterproof DC 2.5 to 30V Red LED

Under $4, free shipping! I have that exact one and it works great.
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Don't get hung up on the auto-off feature, heated gear should all be switched anyway.

Since you are running heated gear, you will want something like this to keep track of your battery/charging system. Search for these keywords:

SN9F Waterproof DC 2.5 to 30V Red LED

Under $4, free shipping! I have that exact one and it works great.
Yeah I had been thinking about that. I may pick one up to add in. I had something like that on my KLR. Any pics of where you mounted yours?

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My two cents with 10,000 Alaska miles ridden in the past 2 years-heated grips are marginal at providing warmth during rainy/cool/cold riding conditions-all of which you will see in a typical Alaska riding season. I have used Suzuki OEM heated grips, Oxford Heated Grips, and some off-brands that look like Oxford. All have their limitations. Heat is pulled away from the surface area of the grip at highway speeds at a rate greater than it can be produced when ambient temperatures are at about 60 degrees or below. Add 70 mph highway speeds to that, and you can have some cool fingertips for sure. I have used Polly Heaters with great success in Alaska. These handlebar insert type heaters produce heat very well and hold up to riding in even the worst rain/cold conditions. The shortcoming may be that they only have a "hi-low-off" switch, but at only $35 they are well worth it and provide a clean install on the Stroms. You can keep any grip of your choice, there is no clunky controller and they have a Lifetime Warranty. Yes-you do have to do some mechanical removal/re-install work on the H-Bars, but that's the fun part.
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My two cents with 10,000 Alaska miles ridden in the past 2 years-heated grips are marginal at providing warmth during rainy/cool/cold riding conditions-all of which you will see in a typical Alaska riding season. I have used Suzuki OEM heated grips, Oxford Heated Grips, and some off-brands that look like Oxford. All have their limitations. Heat is pulled away from the surface area of the grip at highway speeds at a rate greater than it can be produced when ambient temperatures are at about 60 degrees or below. Add 70 mph highway speeds to that, and you can have some cool fingertips for sure. I have used Polly Heaters with great success in Alaska. These handlebar insert type heaters produce heat very well and hold up to riding in even the worst rain/cold conditions. The shortcoming may be that they only have a "hi-low-off" switch, but at only $35 they are well worth it and provide a clean install on the Stroms. You can keep any grip of your choice, there is no clunky controller and they have a Lifetime Warranty. Yes-you do have to do some mechanical removal/re-install work on the H-Bars, but that's the fun part.



As for the poly heaters.. Somehow that makes less sense than the heated grips. now the heat is produced inside the bar which acts as a heat sync and has much more surface area than the heated grips which if your running hard guards will be mostly out of the wind. Plus it has to get through a lot more to get to the same place the grip heaters already are.... So it would seem it would have to pull much more current to get the same output heat wise as the grips. ....


Like I said in two trips up and back (13k miles or so) I have only been cold enough to even think about heated anything once. I have decent gloves and almost everything I ride with is waterproof. I rarely run liners in my gear and usually run just a t-shirt. But when it gets in the 30's and rainy it can get kinda cold and that is when my hands got cold.

I think hand guards with decent wind protection is the #1 reason I did ok on my rides as far. I have ridden for days in rain. But when your talking above the arctic circle why not have a little more insurance.

Oh and as far as the install ....I'd have to agree... I like the prep stuff. I'm the mechanic on our trips usually...even though dad is capable I tend to be a bit more patient than he is. I'll research and learn before a trip and he'll just go... Which is why he wants me along I think...

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Jason, the Polly heaters do come with some insulation that you use on either end of the cartridge insert. The heat is confined mostly to an area underneath the grips and doesn't conduct through the rest of the handlebar. It might sound counter-intuitive but it does work. I believe less heat is lost because the bar under the grip is warmed initially and transferred to the grip. The heaters draw 1.5 amps each (3W total) which may be more than grip heaters. I have them on my SV650 (without handguards) and they are perfect for those "below freezing" mornings.

I hope I didn't derail your original question-as you were asking about specific grip heaters.

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