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post #1 of 12 Old 08-26-2007, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
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Cagers really can't see you

This weekend I spent about two hours driving my car, which is more than the past two years combined. Surprisingly, I still knew how to drive and was able to stay on my side of the road. Something that really shocked me was how much I couldn't see...I don't remember being so blind behind the wheel. Backing out of a parking space really freaked me out because the mirrors are so small and there was just too much blocking my vision.

This made me realize that sometimes cagers can't help but not see you. Not always because they're stupid or can't drive, but because the car gets in the way. It's given me a different perspective and maybe next time I'll be a little bit more forgiving of "stupid cagers".

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Yeah, I've experienced that same thing. My Durango has a HUGE A-pillar and it blocks a lot of my view to the front left. I've also noticed that backing out of a parking space made me paranoid, kind of like you.

Last week I was driving it and there was a guy on an FZ1 in front of me. He kept weaving in and out of traffic, from one lane to the other. I glanced in my mirror or something and when I looked back out front I had lost him. It was a strange feeling because I was really worried about where he went until I found him again.

It's strange how much more attuned to things we become when we ride bikes. I don't think I ever worried that much about whether something was around me until I was on the other end of the equation. Now I try to watch much more closely than I used to.

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Riding has made me a much better driver.
Isnt it a wonder though, how much effort it takes to be a really good attentive driver? We all take that for granted I think.
I think drivers really need better training, including heavy emphasis on seeing all vehicles not just other cars before being turned loose on the road.




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One of the things I know for a fact is that most drivers do not see motorcycle simply because they are not looking for them.

An easy way to understand this concept - If you have ever purchased a new car. Let's say you bought a brand new blue XYZ Sports Sedan. Prior to you buying it, or becoming interested in that particular car, you probably never noticed any of them on the road. However once you buy one, on the way home from the dealership with your new pride and joy, I'll bet you see a lot of them.

The reason is simple - you are now looking for a blue XYZ Sports Sedan.


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This weekend I spent about two hours driving my car, which is more than the past two years combined. Surprisingly, I still knew how to drive and was able to stay on my side of the road. Something that really shocked me was how much I couldn't see...I don't remember being so blind behind the wheel. Backing out of a parking space really freaked me out because the mirrors are so small and there was just too much blocking my vision.

This made me realize that sometimes cagers can't help but not see you. Not always because they're stupid or can't drive, but because the car gets in the way. It's given me a different perspective and maybe next time I'll be a little bit more forgiving of "stupid cagers".

Please don't make excuses for inattentive drivers by saying it's partially the cars fault. Good drives are supposed to learn where the car's blind spots are and make efforts to overcome them. People simply don't pay attention. If you don't ride your bike like an ass there is no reason they shouldn't see you. Diving a car is not as easy as people think, I'm constantly amazed at the fact there are not accidents all over the city all the time at every intersection. I was just talking to my gf about the fact that if I lived out west like in some of the beautiful pictures I see, with wide open expanses of road and relatively few cars I would absolutely no idea how to ride my bike because no one would be trying to kill me every 5 seconds.
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Being a truck driver I get to see all the stupid things that cagers do. I've watched them running 65 mph in Chicago traffic playing on a computer sitting on the steering wheel, reading a book on the loop around DC, or putting makeup on while running down the road at 70 mph. The average 4 wheeler doesn't think about the killing potential of the machine they are operating and they act like the road is theirs and it's everyone elses responsibility to stay out of their way. Being both a rider and a professional truck driver has really given me a greater appreciation for the responsibility we have when driving a 4 wheeler, it's also made me a much more aware driver in all my vehicles.
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Please don't make excuses for inattentive drivers by saying it's partially the cars fault. Good drives are supposed to learn where the car's blind spots are and make efforts to overcome them. People simply don't pay attention. If you don't ride your bike like an ass there is no reason they shouldn't see you.
I wasn't making excuses or trying to bash cagers. As a motorcyclist, it's easy to blame a close call on the other driver's shortcomings, but even a good driver can be distracted or blind. It helps to have a different perspective and by putting myself in the driver's seat, I saw something new. Even if you ride your bike like a professional, there's no reason to think you can't be invisible. And yes, the vehicle is a factor when it comes to blind spots. One day I'd like to jump into the cab of a big rig and see what he can't see.

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I wasn't making excuses or trying to bash cagers. As a motorcyclist, it's easy to blame a close call on the other driver's shortcomings, but even a good driver can be distracted or blind. It helps to have a different perspective and by putting myself in the driver's seat, I saw something new. Even if you ride your bike like a professional, there's no reason to think you can't be invisible. And yes, the vehicle is a factor when it comes to blind spots. One day I'd like to jump into the cab of a big rig and see what he can't see.

I'm not trying to bash drivers, just inattentive ones. I ride my bike like i am totally invisible. I watch them, I don't wait for them to see me. What I meant was and it seems to be not what I wrote was you stated you don't drive a car very often. If you did you would know where the blind spots were in your particular car and make allowances like head checks etc. Most people don't because they are busy doing something else.
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I dunno, I think you can make yourself visible, more often I have people not see me when I'm driving my cage,

something that happened to me this morning and has happened before, I am approaching an interstection on the main through road, a cage is stopped at stop sign, I put on my signal to turn right intop the road the car is exiting from, when I put my signal on, the car pulled out right infront of a car coming fromt the other direction, a bunch of brake squeeling, not contact though, like I said, not the first time a cage has seen me and not another cage



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... you stated you don't drive a car very often.
I used to drive every morning to work while eating McDonalds breakfast, so I figured why not try it again this time. Wow! I never realized how distracting it was to unpack a bag of food on the passenger seat. If I ever went back to driving a car, I'd probably go back to the bad behavior...cars have a way of making you forget what you're doing. Oh, man did I love the air conditioner!

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