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post #1 of 28 Old 08-09-2007, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Question Jacket storage ideas?

Next week I'm heading for Nova Scotia for 9 days 2up, and camping.

I've got the bike and gear sorted out on many camping trips over the last year.

I've recently found I can save a lot of space with compression bags for my sleeping gear, tent, and clothing.

I've purchased good gear for my wife and myself, we have FirstGear Trekker jackets and HT2.0 overpants, Oxtar Matrix II boots, and good hard knuckled gloves.

Generally I can fit all of the camping and normal clothing in the side cases (two Givi E36), leaving the E45 topcase for dry and warm gear as well as travel items. If it's real warm (>75) both pairs of overpants do fit inside the E45 topcase, nearly filling it.

At home I've found that my touring jacket has about a 85F limit before it's nearly intolerable. I bought a convertible mesh jacket for higher temperatures, and I've worn it on weekend trips, but it doesn't work well when it rains or gets colder than 55F. I would much rather have my touring jacket on this longer trip. I also have not duplicated the mesh jacket purchase for my wife yet.

So that brings up the problem of what to do with two jackets if it gets hotter than 85F on my trip? Normally I'm a fan of ATGATT, but I do have my limits. That limit for the touring jacket is around 85F. I have tried wet shirts or neck coolers and they help in the 80-85F range. And BTW at 85F the jacket is already opened up fully and I have some sort of cold wet thing around my neck. Yes I know I'm a hot weather wimp, that's why I live in New England and I'm going to Nova Scotia and not Florida!

Hopefully the weather will not turn even hotter than the 80F it currently is now, and I'll not ever need to shed the jackets. But it would be nice to not have to come up with a solution during the trip, or worse to come up with a solution that ALMOST works.

I do carry strong twine and cinch straps under the seat. Once on my DRZ I managed to stuff one of these jackets into a medium sized backpack, but that's not really an option 2up with a topbox (and it only gets rid of one jacket).

Does anybody have a creative solution to attaching TWO touring jackets to a touring Strom that already has two passengers and three Givi boxes? Assume I'm a normal Strom owner not overly concerned with looks or getting something dirty or slightly scratched.:rolleyes:

I can't be the only one who's had this problem.

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post #2 of 28 Old 08-09-2007, 04:50 PM
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Under a bungie cargo net on top of your E45. If need be, install some bungie hooks up there.

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post #3 of 28 Old 08-09-2007, 05:22 PM
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After many many years of travel out west in temps from 28 F to 100 F, last year it was on the same trip, I found my best combo yet. I wore a First Gear Mesh Tech jacket with Joe Rocket liner. Liner is water proof and is much warmer than the Mesh Tech liner. When it got real cold I put on the Gerbings electric liner and was toasty. Just three pieces for the top and wore the mesh jacket all the time and the other two fold up real flat and it covered all the bases. I did take a plastic rain jacket but it only got used one time in Idaho when it was 31 degrees and freezing rain.

For the bottom I wore First Gear Mesh Overpants with liner. I bought them one size smaller than I needed for overpants because I didn't wear anything under them(except underwear) . If it got below 55 or so I would put the liner in.

Wore the same boots you got and was good to go in any weather.

I was gone for three weeks and only had liners, rain jacket, and Gerbings to pack. If I hadn't run into heavy and freezing rain I wouldn't have neede the rain jacket. If I lust had to run through a light or spotty rain the liner would do fine. Been doing these trips out there for 30 years and it was the first time I came home and said I had all the right stuff.

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Rode through some of Labrador and around the Gaspe coast then down across New Brunswick and Nova Scotia last month in a Rallye 2 Pro suit and it was pretty much perfect for that climate, but it's an expensive solution and has "BMW" written all over it (which seems to start a lot of conversations).
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post #5 of 28 Old 08-09-2007, 05:44 PM
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I've thought about this a lot, Rob, and I'm bringing the Kiliminjaro jacket rather than the mesh. I've worn it up to 90.

Chances of it being 85 degrees for more than a few hours where we're going are slight. I hate the hot weather as much as you do, and even though I'm a pack rat, two jackets is too much for me to take -- never mind the four you'd need!

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post #7 of 28 Old 08-09-2007, 09:59 PM
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Givi makes a top rack for the E45 (only $30 too). http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade...tview/620/419/

It hit 104 here today with the humidity around 40%- I had on my Joe Rocket Alter Ego. I wouldn't want to run laps in it, but it's not too bad as long as you're moving.
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How about sticking the jackets into dry bags and strapping to the tops of the side cases? You didn't say that you already had things strapped to these cases yet. You can buy dry bags which will hold your jackets for less than $20 a piece and then use some flat straps to secure them to the tops of the cases. They can also make nice armrests for your passenger! I have traveled many miles this way.

Of course, the best ultimate solution is to bring one jacket and dress in layers. One summer weight jacket, Gore-tex outer layer for rain and/or cold, and electric vests or warm fleece for the really cold stuff.

But I would imagine that if you are leaving in a week, you don't want to buy a bunch of extra stuff at this point...

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post #9 of 28 Old 08-10-2007, 08:27 AM
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To free up some of your storage space when it gets hot, why not go the other way with your pants? In hot weather I just wear my overpants over riding shorts, then I still have some armor protection. Sounds like you instead stash the bulky overpants and just wear jeans?

Also, since you already have mesh convertible jackets maybe just wear them on the trip and when it gets really cold and/or rainy just put on your rainsuit as an over-layer. It will cut the wind and keep you much warmer. Rainsuits pack much smaller than stashing your jackets, and again you'll still have some armor protection instead of bare arms in hot weather. Both my wife and I have mesh jackets now, one of the best gear purchases I've made, ride comfortably in hot weather.

My wife and I have ridden through Nova Scotia a couple of times, beautiful place but it did get cold and wet even in August.
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post #10 of 28 Old 08-10-2007, 08:51 AM
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+1 on the dry bags lashed to sides. Udsed this method a couple of times. Only addition would be to buy a good quality, heavy duty dry bag such as the type used by canoeists - not only do they last much longer under hard use (I've had mine over 20 years) but because they are so strong you can really compress them down a fair bit without seam damage.

Although I don't have real workld experience in using panniers yet - I just added a set to my Wee -FAMSA tank bag and panniers - for my upcoming BC trip an month end. Gives an extra 18 litres storage with the panniers on the side and with some reaarangement looks like can carry same amount of stuff more organized. It's nice too that this arrangement puts the weight lower and between the wheels.

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