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post #1 of 18 Old 10-09-2013, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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Mounting Panniers Forward and Low?

In my quest to find similarity with other non-conformists, I have considered that perhaps the right location for a big heavy box full of stuff is not way up next to my six-gun.
Why are we moving the center of gravity way up? Cuz that's where it goes on a horse?

Has anyone tried mounting panniers on the side of the engine, in front of the foots?

Kinda like this, but maybe lower?

Oh, wow, that's a r e a l l y. t a l l. s e a t .

Anyways, if you did, how did it ride with them?



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Isn't that where your spare tires and gas go, as in the bike below?



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Isn't that where your spare tires and gas go, as in the bike below?
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On a serious note though, it's just another thing to smash your knees off when and if you come off the bike, I'd rather deal with being unsteady at standtill then having my knees shoved into my ass ;o
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while i'm far from an expert on the subject, i think people get too caught up in the on-paper mechanics and spend too much time dwelling over "numbers." i've ridden my V with and without luggage. loaded heavy and empty. and honestly, aside from being slightly more nimble, i discern no real difference. i've never felt that the V is such an outstandingly nimble machine to begin with. face it, i doubt suzuki spent any time tweaking handling, COG, etc. on this bin bike.

i don't doubt that panniers and top cases change the COG. i just don't think it makes a damn bit of real world difference. moto riders have been loading and overloading their rides and have traveled in places 99% of us will never see in person, let alone ride to. they clearly did it, some several times, with higher COG's on all sorts of bikes.

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while i'm far from an expert on the subject, i think people get too caught up in the on-paper mechanics and spend too much time dwelling over "numbers." i've ridden my V with and without luggage. loaded heavy and empty. and honestly, aside from being slightly more nimble, i discern no real difference. i've never felt that the V is such an outstandingly nimble machine to begin with. face it, i doubt suzuki spent any time tweaking handling, COG, etc. on this bin bike.

i don't doubt that panniers and top cases change the COG. i just don't think it makes a damn bit of real world difference. moto riders have been loading and overloading their rides and have traveled in places 99% of us will never see in person, let alone ride to. they clearly did it, some several times, with higher COG's on all sorts of bikes.

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I'm actually with you on this.

I think the only real world issue could be moving the bike off the side stand and picking it up if the bike falls over.

I always have my Givi E52 on the back. I also own Givi E21 and Givi E41 sidecases. I reallly don't like riding with the side cases on unless I have no other choice. I would much rather load up the bike in the back seat and pile it up there. Mind you, I'm a fairly big guy at 6'2" (in the morning) and around 250 lbs right now (wife is an amazing cook!!!)

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A lot of it has to do with how you load your Panniers in the first place. Heavy stuff goes to the bottom, lighter stuff like rain rear and other clothing layers goes on top. I tend to keep the contents of my top box light also and I carry the bulk of my general clothing in two 10L dry bags strapped across the back of my seat. These give the added benefit of becoming a firm but comfortable back rest for those longer days.

I used to ride with a tank bag but found the added weight on top of the gas tank was annoying and it made getting your leg over a bit of a comedy show.

I'd be hesitant to put anything of a hard nature in front of my knees and shins and even when I'm on forestry roads and such I'm very aware of track width and things that can reach out and grab the panniers.
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In my quest to find similarity with other non-conformists, I have considered ....
I'm thinking that this is contrary to the non-conformist mind set.
As soon as you make something similar, they will be off on another tangent.

If you (by some miracle) duplicate their ability to haul 500 lbs of gear over an Alpine goat trail, they will strip down their bikes to bare frames and do a trans-arctic ride wearing nothing but a pair of Icelandic socks.
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i don't doubt that panniers and top cases change the COG. i just don't think it makes a damn bit of real world difference. moto riders have been loading and overloading their rides and have traveled in places 99% of us will never see in person, let alone ride to. they clearly did it, some several times, with higher COG's on all sorts of bikes.
If that's true, then I need some serious coaching from those moto riders that you're talking about to find out how they set up their bikes so that there are no "real world difference" in handling.

If by "real world" you mean riding the Miami highways at 70 mph fully-loaded vs. not loaded, then I would agree. Not too much difference.

But there's an enormous difference between fully-loaded highway cruising and fully-loaded adventure riding! Add a pillion to the equation and...

The fact that there are adventure riders who travel the world on over-loaded bikes of all kinds is hardly proof that there's no "real world difference". They ride fully-loaded because they have no other choice and they learn to deal with the unique handling characteristics in a broad spectrum of conditions. That's part of the reason it's an "adventure".

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