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post #1 of 12 Old 07-02-2007, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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horsepower figures?

Anyone know the horsepower numbers for the 650 vs 1000?[same model year]

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Shows '06 DL1000 at 98 hp, '04 - '06 DL650 at 66.6

But horsepower needs to be considered along with torque, no?

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Thumbs up hp, 650 vs 1000. outstanding question!

Does anyone have hp & torque vs speed curves ? And weight vs hp curves. Question is why buy the 650? Gas mileage seems to be the main factor for the 650 getting 50 plus but averaging the last 20 tanks on my 05 dl1000 of various riding conditions has given me 44. 97 mpg. Speedo healer and speedo face plate changes now gives me dead on mph's and odo readings. More torque and hp makes me wonder why get the little one. Ya, 30-40 less pounds is one thing also. I know the mileage drops drastically above the real 75 mph on the 650. The speedo is reading 7.7% high on all the stroms but can be corrected by installing the correctly graduated speedo face. $1-2K less money is also a factor I guess.

Bottom line on these Stroms is the FUN FACTOR. I don't think you can beat either one for their all around varsatility. Corners, MPG, 1/4 mile times reasonable, grocery store and errands make this one cool as sheeiiittt bike.
98 vs 66hp makes me wonder agian tho. I know the 1/4 times are slightly faster with 650 so power to wt kicks in again there. Lots of rambling here.

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http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/

Shows '06 DL1000 at 98 hp, '04 - '06 DL650 at 66.6

But horsepower needs to be considered along with torque, no?

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I know the 1/4 times are slightly faster with 650 so power to wt kicks in again there. Lots of rambling here.
Any 650 owners want to try that theory against my 1000?

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I know the 1/4 times are slightly faster with 650 so power to wt kicks in again there. Lots of rambling here.

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Really? I thought I'd read mid to high 12's on the 650 and low 12's on the 1000.

Honestly, you've just listed all the reasons for the 650 over the 1000. Most of my riding is max 65mph, with, maybe a little stint on the highway to get to the good riding. So I'm seeing 52+mpg on my bike every time. The weight is an issue, I like to ride light bikes, and ever ounce matters. Then there's the price difference(it speaks for its self), and now you can get ABS on the 650. It's a no brainer for me. Can't figure out why any one would need the 1000 as far as I'm concerned.

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Still, 650 vs 1000, the age old queston.

Can anyone help me with the drag race numbers? I remember the 650 was mid 11's and the 1000 was just a few tenths slower. Anyone have another recollection of this or proof would be even better yet !!!!!. Speed in mph's and times. I guess now that I have spent so much time, research and upgrades to the 1000, I would not trade for a 650.
Gramps, I am in that age category also with 8 of the g'kids running around. I suppose, if I was getting a new Strom again I might get the 650, for all of the reasons listed. There is or would always be the thought lingering in the back of my mind is "what if the 650 just ain't got enuff poop or lead in it's pencil !!! Then what do I do.

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http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/

Shows '06 DL1000 at 98 hp, '04 - '06 DL650 at 66.6

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Really? I thought I'd read mid to high 12's on the 650 and low 12's on the 1000.

Honestly, you've just listed all the reasons for the 650 over the 1000. Most of my riding is max 65mph, with, maybe a little stint on the highway to get to the good riding. So I'm seeing 52+mpg on my bike every time. The weight is an issue, I like to ride light bikes, and ever ounce matters. Then there's the price difference(it speaks for its self), and now you can get ABS on the 650. It's a no brainer for me. Can't figure out why any one would need the 1000 as far as I'm concerned.

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Really? I thought I'd read mid to high 12's on the 650 and low 12's on the 1000.

Honestly, you've just listed all the reasons for the 650 over the 1000. Most of my riding is max 65mph, with, maybe a little stint on the highway to get to the good riding. So I'm seeing 52+mpg on my bike every time. The weight is an issue, I like to ride light bikes, and ever ounce matters. Then there's the price difference(it speaks for its self), and now you can get ABS on the 650. It's a no brainer for me. Can't figure out why any one would need the 1000 as far as I'm concerned.

In the end, we all buy what we think we need.
Your information is incorrect the 1K will run in the mid elevens and like Big B I will gladly show you the back of my 1K if you are ever out my way 20 or 40 lbs. does not make up for the HP difference. Both bikes are whales if you chose to ride them off road, the fuel mileage my 1K 45 mpg consistantly (unless I ride like Big B then it still gets low 40's) Change the mufflers and there goes most of the weight. The price you got us there but some of us do not buy the least expensive, as for abs yes it does help to stop in some situations but the most important thing to remember about abs is that you will be looking at what ever you are going to hit if you over ride your ability.
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Dog what are you smoking the 1K will run the 1/4 in the mid elevens at about 110 your 650 might see 120 top speed after a mile thats only 10 mph faster then the 1k will do the 1/4 mile.
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Never checked but I'd be surprised if the 650 beats the 1000 in the 1/4. The only smaller version that I KNOW beats it's bigger sibling is the VS800 will smoke the VS1400 in the 1/4

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Can anyone help me with the drag race numbers? I remember the 650 was mid 11's and the 1000 was just a few tenths slower. Anyone have another recollection of this or proof would be even better yet !!!!!. Speed in mph's and times. I guess now that I have spent so much time, research and upgrades to the 1000, I would not trade for a 650.
Gramps, I am in that age category also with 8 of the g'kids running around. I suppose, if I was getting a new Strom again I might get the 650, for all of the reasons listed. There is or would always be the thought lingering in the back of my mind is "what if the 650 just ain't got enuff poop or lead in it's pencil !!! Then what do I do.

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Your information is incorrect the 1K will run in the mid elevens and like Big B I will gladly show you the back of my 1K if you are ever out my way 20 or 40 lbs. does not make up for the HP difference.
The 1000 is faster, that's what I said.. And I'm not interested in racing, so there is one of the differences between you and I. I'm also not very interested in looking at the back of your Strom no matter what the situation.


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Both bikes are whales if you chose to ride them off road,
one is a little more of a whale than the other..

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the fuel mileage my 1K 45 mpg consistantly (unless I ride like Big B then it still gets low 40's)
That is 7mpg, or more, less than what I get..

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Change the mufflers and there goes most of the weight.
That's more money, and I am happy with the stock cans, but the same is true of the 650

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The price you got us there but some of us do not buy the least expensive,
I'm glad you have deep pockets, I practice a form of financial responsibility, and try not to buy more than what I need.

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as for abs yes it does help to stop in some situations
This is true, and is why I decided to get it after riding 18 years without it..

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but the most important thing to remember about abs is that you will be looking at what ever you are going to hit if you over ride your ability.
I don't have an issue with target fixation, and I am almost never riding over my ability. But when the unexpected happens and I nail the brakes, or I hit a patch of oil or diesel or coolant, I have one less thing to worry about, and maybe it'll be that extra bit of technology that means the difference between me being able to swerve around that thing that I'm not target fixating on, or low-siding in to it.

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