perforated leather overpants - Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums
General V-Strom Discussion Talk about all things V-Strom not limited to just one of the above models

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 Old 08-23-2013, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: virginia
Posts: 28
perforated leather overpants

Hey !

So I am having a difficult time finding full grain perforated leather overpants with armor in the knees.

I can special order them from vanson but it would cost at least 550.

Fox creek i can get them without armor for 410. Does anyone know if a tailor would have trouble sewing in a couple strong pockets for knee armor. But once I factor in 30 bucks for knee armor and 30(?) or so for the tailor I am back up to 470.

Anyone know of any other options out there?
cellige is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 Old 08-23-2013, 08:38 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
DGrav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Langhorne PA
Posts: 132
I have a friend who had armor sewn into a non-armor Vanson. The jacket has never fit the same since. Oh and he sent it to Vanson to have it done.

It seems that clothing made for armor are cut different and there's mor to it than just a pocket.

Musician, backpacker, Mt. Biker, learning how to be a motorcyclist.

Last edited by DGrav; 08-23-2013 at 08:40 PM. Reason: Hit post by mistake before finished
DGrav is offline  
post #3 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 07:55 AM
Official Stromtrooper.com Sponsor
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 4,986
I assume you are wanting leather for maximum protection? Leather "overpants" are not common, perforated or solid. Add in the knee, hip, thigh armor and there may not be any choices in it.

If protection is your goal, consider some other type of gear. The Kevlar mesh gear has been proven to be more abrasion resistant than solid leather and a LOT easier to maintain. There is a good reason it is a lot more common, and price is not the main reason.

'12 DL 650 '14 BMW R 1200 RT

WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
The BEST in chudder control, noise control, and lasting durability! AVAILABLE HERE: www.werksparts.com

Have questions about the clutch in your DL or SV 1000? E-mail Terry [email protected]
realshelby is online now  
 
post #4 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 09:55 AM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: virginia
Posts: 28
DGray you make a very good point and that certainly wouldn't be something I would want to find out after its done.

Realshelby your right about the protection and I was wondering why I don't see more people with leather pants considering tons have jackets, but of course that is probably just a style thing. When you refer to kevlar mesh it seems the only choice is motoport? I have read some bad stories about dealing with them and they are just or more expensive than nice leather.

I could probably settle for 1000 denier cordura however that is difficult to find as well (just motoport again, and vanson?!) and I can't find any studies on abrasion testing for these materials.. Also, will cordura be hotter than fully perforated leather?

Thanks guys !
cellige is offline  
post #5 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 10:08 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
strompilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by cellige View Post
DGray you make a very good point and that certainly wouldn't be something I would want to find out after its done.

Realshelby your right about the protection and I was wondering why I don't see more people with leather pants considering tons have jackets, but of course that is probably just a style thing. When you refer to kevlar mesh it seems the only choice is motoport? I have read some bad stories about dealing with them and they are just or more expensive than nice leather.

I could probably settle for 1000 denier cordura however that is difficult to find as well (just motoport again, and vanson?!) and I can't find any studies on abrasion testing for these materials.. Also, will cordura be hotter than fully perforated leather?

Thanks guys !
You might consider Kevlar lined jeans, too. Draggin' Jeans sells kevlar lined jeans that also come with pockets for armor pads. I'm guessing they are more generously proportioned in the knees and hips to accommodate the armor. They cost a little over $100.00. Of course, if that is not your style, then you wouldn't want to go that route.

As for the abrasion resistance of corder riding gear, anymore corder is very strong. What you want to avoid is anything made of nylon, as it will melt from the heat generated by sliding across the asphalt. Hot, melted nylon grinding into your skin is definitely a downer! As for leather, I find it to be on the steamy side when it get hot. We abandoned leather years ago.

'09 DL650
strompilot is offline  
post #6 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 10:41 AM
Official Stromtrooper.com Sponsor
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 4,986
Quote:
Originally Posted by cellige View Post
Realshelby your right about the protection and I was wondering why I don't see more people with leather pants considering tons have jackets, but of course that is probably just a style thing. When you refer to kevlar mesh it seems the only choice is motoport? I have read some bad stories about dealing with them and they are just or more expensive than nice leather.

I could probably settle for 1000 denier cordura however that is difficult to find as well (just motoport again, and vanson?!) and I can't find any studies on abrasion testing for these materials.. Also, will cordura be hotter than fully perforated leather?

Thanks guys !
There is a lot more to protection than just abrasion resistance. A common weak point is in the zippers. Don't want those coming apart on impact! The armor is more important than most owners want to hear about. Gear with good protection isn't going to be the cheapest up front. But the durability and repairability might make them the better long term value. Motoport is one source of mesh kevlar, but there are at least one other source. I had no issues with dealing with Motoport, you will have to wait as they are custom fit. But my pants and jacket are by far the most comfortable gear I have ever worn. I am not sure that perforated leather will be all that much cooler than some of the breathable textiles like Cordura or the solid kevlar products. Aerostich has a great reputation with there textiles and they are not all that expensive. Some of the imported gear might be something to look at, but I would want to know how well they are built-zippers and stitching especially.

'12 DL 650 '14 BMW R 1200 RT

WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
The BEST in chudder control, noise control, and lasting durability! AVAILABLE HERE: www.werksparts.com

Have questions about the clutch in your DL or SV 1000? E-mail Terry [email protected]
realshelby is online now  
post #7 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 11:00 AM
Super Moderator
 
Big B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central OHIO "Go Buckeyes"
Posts: 16,605
Garage
See no reason for leather pants at all, we are not MotoGP riders who are gonna go down at 100 plus MPH. All of the textile pants offer great abrasion resistance, and the armor is what is most important anyways.

BRIAN "GO Buckeyes, GO Wildcats"!

2015 DL650 XT "Hector"

1997 Honda Valkyrie 1500 custom “Dolores”




Big B is offline  
post #8 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 12:45 PM
$tromtrooper
 
jokermtb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: plymouth, michigan
Posts: 3,081
Garage
I believe all of you are overlooking the magic of perforated under pants..........

"Side effects may include: Mild kidney explosions...Testicular cranberrying... And Rectal hallucinations."
jokermtb is offline  
post #9 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 01:27 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
tiller4me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big B View Post
See no reason for leather pants at all, we are not MotoGP riders who are gonna go down at 100 plus MPH. All of the textile pants offer great abrasion resistance, and the armor is what is most important anyways.
:iamwithstupid: Abrasion resistance doesn't mean squat unless it is required to hold the armor in place long enough for the slide to stop. I learned at an early age how important armor is vs leather only. You can get a very serious burn from a slide when friction heats up the protective gear and it transfers to your skin. And the gear needs to fit snugly or the armor can slip of the area it is supposed to protect and cause the rider serious friction burns. One of my most serious injuries was while wearing a heavy leather jacket with no armor. I did an approximate 20 mph front wheel lockup and landed on my left forearm, and did a roll to the right forearm halfway through the skid when the heat on the left became too intense. Second degree burns on both forearms stretching from elbow to side of hand, (non armor leather gloves). But the jacket held up nicely.

79 GS1000S
97 TL1000S
2005 DRZ400
2005 KDX220R
2007 DLK
2009 KLR650
2007 FJR1300
2007 Honda XR650L
tiller4me is offline  
post #10 of 22 Old 08-24-2013, 02:18 PM
$tromtrooper
 
jokermtb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: plymouth, michigan
Posts: 3,081
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiller4me View Post
You can get a very serious burn from a slide
Yup - right on the money. The benefit of leather is that it won't MELT, like textiles will, and burn/melt into your skin.........That said, I still use textiles because they can be much cooler for hot temperature riding. I'd be safe to say that ALL knee/shin armor in Adventure style textile pants is essentially useless, since the pants move around so much due to the design. Only wearing armor underneath, as some companies sell, to keep the armor IN PLACE, is of any merit.

I'd prefer leather, but there are so few options other than the sausage casing type gear, or Butch Biker style, that my vanity precludes either.....textile it is.

"Side effects may include: Mild kidney explosions...Testicular cranberrying... And Rectal hallucinations."

Last edited by jokermtb; 08-24-2013 at 02:20 PM.
jokermtb is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome