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post #1 of 13 Old 06-25-2007, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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Should I get ABS on a wee strom ?

I'm going to grab a 650 soon and am wondering if the ABS is a good thing or bad thing to get. I was thinking that in a panic stop it's sometimes good to lock up the rear wheel (not so much of a good idea to lock the front ). Then again... ABS probably helps quite a bit in most cirucumstances.

Any opinions would be appreciated, particularly from those of you who have tried the abs and have activated it (I'm wondering how the ABS behaves).
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I was thinking that in a panic stop it's sometimes good to lock up the rear wheel
You have missed the whole point of ABS.
Because the wheels do not lock up you have the ability to steer around things whilst panic stopping. Locking a wheel in a panic stop simply causes you to slide in an uncontrolled manner towards whatever you are trying to avoid. Before you say otherwise if you are actually able to control a slide in a panic situation as opposed to talking about controlling a slide then please let me know your MotoGP racing number because I would love to follow your career.
If ABS were an option on any bike I looked at I would buy it without a seconds hesitation.
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I'm going to grab a 650 soon and am wondering if the ABS is a good thing or bad thing to get. I was thinking that in a panic stop it's sometimes good to lock up the rear wheel (not so much of a good idea to lock the front ). Then again... ABS probably helps quite a bit in most cirucumstances.

Any opinions would be appreciated, particularly from those of you who have tried the abs and have activated it (I'm wondering how the ABS behaves).
You never want to lock your rear wheel in a panic stop. Experiments have proven that ABS will stop you in a shorter distance then a locked wheel and help keep your bike upright. I wish the Vee had it.
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Ask yourself a question??? Do you think you have better skills than a Motorcycle Racer??? If the answer is NO then ABS is for you. I sold a perfectly fine 05 Wee Strom so I could pick up an 07 with ABS.

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post #5 of 13 Old 06-26-2007, 02:25 AM
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I have tested my ABS only a couple of times, on a wet street from approx 20 mph. I know, not exactly a daredevil pace, but I wanted to see how the ABS felt when it kicked in so I wouldnt be surprised if/when I actually needed it. I can report that it does it's job very very well without any drama whatsoever. The stopping distance was far better than I expected and the best part was what K1W1 has already pointed out...full control.
I can't imagine a better way to spend $500 on your motorcycle, especially if you commute in heavy traffic and varied conditions like I do every day.




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I'm going to grab a 650 soon and am wondering if the ABS is a good thing or bad thing to get. I was thinking that in a panic stop it's sometimes good to lock up the rear wheel (not so much of a good idea to lock the front ). Then again... ABS probably helps quite a bit in most cirucumstances.

Any opinions would be appreciated, particularly from those of you who have tried the abs and have activated it (I'm wondering how the ABS behaves).

I am wondering about your comment of "I was thinking that in a panic stop it's sometimes good to lock up the rear wheel". Maximum braking happens just before letting either tire starting to slide. A rolling object travels slower than a sliding object of the same material. If you lock up either wheel, the difference in travel speed is what causes unstability.

ABS is something that I will have on the next motorcycle I purchase.

Please understand this next comment - it is not meant to be stated from a "know it all" perspective, but I do get to practice quick stops a whole lot more than the average rider! I teach at least one MSF Basic Rider Course each week. Most of the time, I'm teaching 2 classes a week. I do most of the demo rides and I need to be able to stop a motorcycle quite quickly. I consider myself a pretty decent rider when it comes to stopping.

One of my cohorts came by one day with his ABS equipped motorcycle. I was kind of interested in the ABS and asked if I could turn the ABS on and off. It was possible, so I asked the next question, "Can I ride your bike and make some quick stops?" He too is an instructor and we both went out and tried to stop the bike as quickly as possible with and without the ABS working. The ABS won every time. The bike came to a nice smooth controlled stop every time. I even tried to slam on the front brake, but could not make the tire lock up. I was impressed.

Last winter, we had a very cold day here in Florida. I had on my glove liners and also my insulated gloves as I rode into work. A driver decided to bring his vehicle to a complete stop in a 55 mph zone - why I have no idea. As I was stopping, I heard the front tire start to skid. I quickly took the steps necessary to release and reapply the front brake and still brought the bike to a safe stop. That happened because I did not have the same feel for the amount of pressure I was applying because of the thick gloves I was wearing.

So, do you want ABS on your new bike? Like I stated, my next bike will have ABS on it!



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I wanted it, just couldn't find one with it in stock locally and came upon a near-new 05.

I've seen reports on advrider of people with ABS in emergency situations - it works.
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Ask yourself a question??? Do you think you have better skills than a Motorcycle Racer??? If the answer is NO then ABS is for you. I sold a perfectly fine 05 Wee Strom so I could pick up an 07 with ABS.
There's a rather complete ABS test on one of the BMW sites. On dry pavement, racers could sometimes stop at distances approaching bikes with ABS. On wet pavement, ABS was far superior to anybody's skills.

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I've had a couple of situations where I could have used ABS, I think, and I was going to get a new 07 with ABS. However, it wasn't worth it compared to the $2500 savings I got with a deal on a well taken care of 06 with 10k. I'd have liked it, but am happy without it.

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