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post #1 of 18 Old 08-19-2013, 01:37 AM Thread Starter
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Question for you who know

Ok heres a question for the guys who know the answer .

Imagine this scenario , there i am , happilly playing Coneye the explorer , in the gravel roads and dirt tracks , 40-50 klm from me .

There i am on my trusty steed the 650 wee , when i'm hooning along this track coming to the bottom , before i start to go up hill i notice ... WATER ... now at a guess this water is'nt a running creek , its not a river , i think its more of a big wide deep puddle , probably no more than a foot or so deep .

So being a novice , bushman and explorer , i take a deep breath and ponder what shall i do , now the teenager in me , and the Daniel Boone side of me says , yep no worries go for it , But the old man and sensible side of me says

You know your gonna drop it , the other voice says , no worries pick it up , and carry on ,

Mr sensible,, says but it won't go, you just stalled it and dropped it, and covered it, in water , in fact you broke it , and your gonna have to walk home ,


So what do i do

. question is , what is likely to happen if the bike was lay on its side in a big 1 foot deep puddle . is there likely to be major damage to the engine .Or am i more likely to pick it up , hit the switch and carry on .

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Simple, don't be a hero. You prove nothing to nobody of you drop your bike.

If in doubt, get off and check it out, walk through it if you have to. I'd rather have wet feet than a dropped damaged bike.

On the other hand, once committed go for it. Don't think that you are not going to make it and are going to drop the bike, timid won't do it.
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If I can see the bottom, I'll consider riding through.

If it's a long way from help, I'll turn around anyway.

If I knew there was say a travelled road just over that hill, I might walk it first, then ride through.

One foot of water isn't a problem for the bike, just make sure you know where the kill switch is - being trapped under the bike in a foot of water on the other hand can drown you.

And I'd have to say, picking a bike like a DL up in a mud puddle isn't that easy, the wheels slide around, you slide around, you get it 3/4 of the way up and lose your grip ....

Generally, slow and steady will get you through on a DL, at least with some variant of off road tire on. The bloody things are so heavy that they usually sink through the mud and get some grip - you do however need enough momentum to get you out the other end as more throttle at that point probably won't work.

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Have we learned nothing from Frederick Barbarossa ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederi..._Roman_Emperor )?

Alone, I would avoid anything more than ankle deep.

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If the exhaust or airbox go under when you go down, which in a foot of water they probably would, then you risk ingesting water.

In and of itself that's not a big deal, if you get the engine shut off immediately. Because water is not compressible, if the engine continues to run, or stalls and you try to restart it, you risk internal engine damage - bending a rod, or similar.

In the event that you try a crossing and fail, and go down and actually submerge the bike, don't immediately try to start it. Push it out, drain the airbox, lift the front wheel up (if possible, the DL is heavy) drain the exhaust, and pull the plugs and dry them off. Leave them out and crank the engine as if you were going to start it, which should eject a lot of the water up and out the plug holes. Do this a few times until it's mostly dry. Reinstall the plugs and change the oil as soon as possible (right there would be ideal), then change it again in 50 miles.

It's easier on a dirt bike; I personally would avoid deeper water crossings on the Strom because the potential for disaster is exponentially higher than on a lightweight thumper.

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Alone, I would avoid anything more than ankle deep.
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Time turn in your Adventure bike and trade up to a HOVERround

Miracle Tool called a stick Probe puddle for depth and bottom construction, *

When you ride through RIDE bike stability is generated by wheel speed so go 10 MPH or more. Stand on the pegs let the bars float in your hands.

You will be able to go over everything up to a bowling ball.

Obviously Exploring is better with a buddy
Practice in regular mud
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* 50 feet or more this doesn't apply as you will lose all forward momentum
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If the exhaust or airbox go under when you go down, which in a foot of water they probably would, then you risk ingesting water.

In and of itself that's not a big deal, if you get the engine shut off immediately. Because water is not compressible, if the engine continues to run, or stalls and you try to restart it, you risk internal engine damage - bending a rod, or similar.

In the event that you try a crossing and fail, and go down and actually submerge the bike, don't immediately try to start it. Push it out, drain the airbox, lift the front wheel up (if possible, the DL is heavy) drain the exhaust, and pull the plugs and dry them off. Leave them out and crank the engine as if you were going to start it, which should eject a lot of the water up and out the plug holes. Do this a few times until it's mostly dry. Reinstall the plugs and change the oil as soon as possible (right there would be ideal), then change it again in 50 miles.

It's easier on a dirt bike; I personally would avoid deeper water crossings on the Strom because the potential for disaster is exponentially higher than on a lightweight thumper.



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Thank you thats what i was after ,, i would'nt try riding through water yet , i'm not experienced enough , but looking on this and the adventure site theres lots who do , , and i could'nt help but wonder what happens if they drop it , what damage is likely , cheers
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Time turn in your Adventure bike and trade up to a HOVERround

Miracle Tool called a stick Probe puddle for depth and bottom construction, *

When you ride through RIDE bike stability is generated by wheel speed so go 10 MPH or more. Stand on the pegs let the bars float in your hands.

You will be able to go over everything up to a bowling ball.

Obviously Exploring is better with a buddy
Practice in regular mud
Know how to pick up your bike yes you can


* 50 feet or more this doesn't apply as you will lose all forward momentum
Practice in mud , good advice its certainly a different kettle of fish riding in the mud , and the gravel roads with big marbles and pebbles on them , but heh , its all a learning curve , Good weather is only round the corner now, and there will not be much mud near me , but the little i've seen has been fun .
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Stop listening to that old guy and have some fun:mod_lol: Avoid the middle and cross through the shallow edges. Slipping and sliding through mud puddles can be lots of fun.
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Time turn in your Adventure bike and trade up to a HOVERround

Miracle Tool called a stick Probe puddle for depth and bottom construction, *

When you ride through RIDE bike stability is generated by wheel speed so go 10 MPH or more. Stand on the pegs let the bars float in your hands.

You will be able to go over everything up to a bowling ball.

Obviously Exploring is better with a buddy
Practice in regular mud
Know how to pick up your bike yes you can


* 50 feet or more this doesn't apply as you will lose all forward momentum
Bingo we have a winner. If it is also a 4x4 track it will have ruts. Get off and check it out with a stick. Or better yet, turn around. The DL isn't a dirt bike. Is it worth the walk out?
Also you got past this one. What if the next is even deeper and you have to turn around

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