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post #1 of 88 Old 06-06-2007, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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Question DL650 v DL1000

G'day from Western Australia. First post but been lurking for a while.

Has anyone gone from the 650 to the 1000. Is there a big difference in power/accelleration? I have a 2006 650 and am considering a change to an 07 1000... I'm just wondering if there is a noticble difference.

Lurve the weestrom, just need a bit more power for the added grin factor.

Anyone offer advice?

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post #2 of 88 Old 06-06-2007, 09:17 AM
 
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G'Day Mate,

Not enough power to put the smile on your face you say?

I've ridden both the DL650 and the DL1000. I own a DL1000 and am quite content with it. Matter of fact the bike in it's present state of tune and gearing will light your fire, as I know it light's mine!

Please understand one thing here - I AM NOT DISSING THE DL650 FOR LACK OF POWER, NOR AM I SAYING IT'S NOT A GREAT BIKE. HOWEVER THE DL1000 DOES HAVE A LOT MORE POWER AND A HIGHER FUN FACTOR WHEN THE RIGHT HAND TURNS!

My DL1000 was purchased to commute on and it has done an extremely remarkable job. Regardless of expressway or backroad running, it is just a whole lot of fun to ride.

If you're interested in power, the DL1000 has somewhere around 30 more horses available in stock form. With some tuning of the EFI, about 10 can be coaxed to start working from 2500 to 4200 rpm. That's a great place for the added power.

Let us know what you think once you complete the swap out.

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Hi Tim
We got a new one about a month ago from Perth.
We are up here in the north west.

Have taken out the secondary butterflys and done a TBS on it.
Don't know what your 650 would do but our 1000 gets to 200km very easy now and wants to just keep going. It will just about idle along in 6th gear now as well.

Two up with panners and topbox loaded it passes roadtrains very easy even into headwinds and would leave a 650 for dead on the long open road loaded up like this.

It's a beast
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Dude you live in a place called "Ningaloo Reef"! :mrgreen:

I want to live someplace that has a name like that. Tell me, is it as exotic as it sounds? I'm envisioning Koala Bears and Toucans and crazy ass lizards scampering about.

Sorry for the OT. Oh wait, it's a 650 vs 1000 thread. So I'm not sorry for the OT.

Buy the 1k. You'll grin from ear to ear. 650 is very practical and efficient. It's a great bike. But nothing compares to the 74 ft/lbs on torque and triple digit HP on the big boy.

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No doubt you'll notice a big difference in roll-on acceleration due to the extra torque of the bigger engine as compared to the 650. The DL1000 isn't all that fast as liter-class motors go, but playing with the gearing will put some extra pep in her step for cheap.
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I just want to add to these GREAT posts on the subject, that as a first time rider, I'm SO glad I purchased the DL650 over the DL1000.

Here are just some of the reasons:

1. When I tipped my bike over, it took all my strenth to get the bike back up, the extra 50 pounds on the 1k would mean I wouldnt have been able to and had to have help (which was not forthcoming)

2. I'm still a bit freaked out over how the bike jumps if you tip the accl to much. Ditto on cluch, still getting used to that. I can imagine that a DL1000 would have hurt me by now with all the small mistakes I've made.

3. Considering all the hidden costs of the DL650, if I had gone to DL1000 my pocket book would have been ripped to shreds.

anyways, thats all from the heart!

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post #7 of 88 Old 06-06-2007, 01:39 PM
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G'day from Western Australia. First post but been lurking for a while.

Has anyone gone from the 650 to the 1000. Is there a big difference in power/accelleration? I have a 2006 650 and am considering a change to an 07 1000... I'm just wondering if there is a noticble difference.

Lurve the weestrom, just need a bit more power for the added grin factor.

Anyone offer advice?

Cheers

Tim
Perth, WA 6055
Since you are fully aware of the wonders of the Wee-Strom there's no need to tell you....
  • What a wonderful bike it is
  • How its got all the power I need
  • its 30 lbs lighter
etc. Going from a Wee Strom to the Vee will be like seeing your favorite t-shirt on a Victoria's Secret model. Some things are familiar, others are wonderful and new. Sitting on it will be like the 650, the hydraulic clutch on the Vee will be different.

Hand grips will be familiar, what happens when you turn the throttle will definately be different. The Vee's not as silky as the Wee Strom, but, hey, silk comes outta the butts of Chinese Worms!

Get the Vee, you won't be dissapointed!
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Will a dl1000 keep up with a modern 600ss? And I know the 600 will kick its butt at high speeds, but what about everything below 80mph?

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Will a dl1000 keep up with a modern 600ss? And I know the 600 will kick its butt at high speeds, but what about everything below 80mph?
I can only speak from personal experience, but I have smoked several 600 rockets from a dead stop to highway speeds. Usually from the stop while waiting to get onto the freeway. And have run down a couple from cruising at 80 when they go racing by. So much depends on rider/conditions that thats a hard one to pin down, but IMO the DL1K does just fine against the squids.
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G'day from Western Australia. First post but been lurking for a while.

Has anyone gone from the 650 to the 1000. Is there a big difference in power/accelleration?
I've gone from the 650 to the 1000. Then back to the 650. I owned both bikes--actually had 'em in the garage at the same time. You can read my comparison here:
DL650 vs DL1000
The short answer to your question is yes, there is a big difference in power and acceleration so if that's the only reason you're buying the bike you'd probably be happier with the DL1000. Then again, if that's the only reason you're buying the bike there are dozens of bikes faster than the DL1000 so why not choose one of them?
I was perfectly happy with my DL1000 and only bought the DL650 because I got a heckuva buy on a used one and I planned to turn around and sell it for a profit; in 40 years of riding I'd owned some of the fastest bikes in the world and couldn't imagine that I'd be happy with a bike that had "only" 650cc. I switched from one Strom to another but found myself more and more often throwing a leg over the 650. Why? Not for practical reasons like the superior fuel economy or lower insurance costs. I was drawn to the smaller bike because it was simply MORE FUN. You heard me--more fun. It's hard to quantify, but the grin factor was just greater, and by a wide margin. You've gotten some opinions from some folks who've owned one bike or another--here's an opinion from someone who's actually owned and compared the two. I can't cast any stones at the DL1000--it's the second-finest bike I've ever owned (and I've had 39 of 'em)--but the best bike I've ever owned is the DL650.

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