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Luma 05-13-2015 12:20 PM

Wish list for a new "small" V-Strom model
 
So I spent a full day researching and comparing the new Triumphs 800 XRx/XCx to the current DL650 model. Based on the specs and reviews the new XRx/XCx models seem to be the most “complete” mid size adventure tourers, outfitted with all the latest electronics and accessories. I went even on the tiger.co.uk forum and asked about rider comfort and protection from elements, because reviews do not pay much attention to this.
I am not going to list all the pros and cons, this is actually not the purpose of my post, but I concluded that for my specific needs the DL650 with few farkles that I have on it is still a better option.

However, as I think that new and upgraded “small” V-Strom is coming in a year or two, so here is my wish list for this new model:

1) Some 10 extra HP by means of going to either 750 or 800 cc engine size would be nice, that would make the small V-Strom more competitive in this increasingly popular mid size category.
2) Introduce drive by wire system, which would open options for at least couple of traction control modes and cruise control (my big wish).
3) Instead of putting just spoked wheels and a beak on the X model, make it with upgraded suspension and 21” front wheel like the 800 XCx for those interested in off road.
4) For the roadie version, which is what I am after, use better looking rims, like those on the new DL1000.
5) Improve the rider protection from elements, evidently small things like better/larger windshield and winglets can make a substantial improvement.
6) Make center stand and hand protectors standard.
7) Install at least one 12V electrical socket and bump up the alternator output to at least 500W.
8 ) Seat height adjustment would be nice.
9) For the road version, I would appreciate the integrated side cases like the new DL1000 has, I do not like the monster side cases making the DL almost as wide as a car.

Some people might prefer more basic bike, but in my case, with items above, I would not mind paying extra couple thousand bucks even if they were offered as factory options only.
Any additional ideas from other owners?

SantaFeTrailer 05-13-2015 12:41 PM

Good wish list, and an 800 would get me thinking strongly about moving down from the Vee

GrayStrom44444 05-13-2015 12:59 PM

800 would be just about right, I agree. Around 85 horsepower with a flat torque curve would be great. I think the roadie version should come with 17" front and back to allow good sport touring tire selection. The offroad version should have 21" spoked front. I really think they should consider more differentiation between a road version and an offroad version; maybe even two different models with totally different emphasis. What I want for the road is a tall and light sport touring bike. For dual sport touring I want something like a KLR with the DL motor and a little more luggage capacity.
For electronics, give me ABS. I know it's going to have to be ride-by-wire eventually, but I'm still old school and prefer less CPU intervention. You at least have a prayer of fixing something with a throttle body and cable when you're off the beaten path.

SECoda 05-13-2015 02:10 PM

My buddy has an TT XC800 and he still had to install a Denali fuse box for accessories and change the tires for Alaska. He also added Barkbusters among other accessories. I always like a power boost though. Luckily, the current 650 is pretty strong and I will stick with Suzuki reliability. His TT seems to have more hick-ups but not as bad as our other buddies BMW.

Add cruise control and it is a KTM.

Bud 05-13-2015 03:27 PM

I like it!

Sure would make a few 2012+ Wee owners anxious about the resale value of their used bikes as people move up.

I would like more suspension travel.

V-Tom 05-13-2015 03:30 PM

I was hoping you heard a rumour of a new "smaller" V-Strom. Something like a 500 cc V-Twin would be incredibly smooth, rev like crazy and be a blast to wind out!

..Tom

Luma 05-13-2015 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrayStrom44444 (Post 3175633)
800 would be just about right, I agree. Around 85 horsepower with a flat torque curve would be great. I think the roadie version should come with 17" front and back to allow good sport touring tire selection. The offroad version should have 21" spoked front.

I think that the existing 19" front wheel would be good even for the "road" version. I might not go off road with my roadie, but I still want to tackle all these bad/bumpy back roads with occasional hard packed surface.

greywolf 05-13-2015 04:18 PM

Here's a list of the bikes I've owned. 1971 Honda CB350, 2 1973 Honda CB500s, one was stolen, 1974 Can-Am 175 TNT, 1978 Yamaha XS1100E, 1978 Honda CX500, 1975 BMW R90S, 1983 BMW R65LS, 2005 Suzuki DL650 totaled, 2007 Suzuki DL650A and 2012 Suzuki DL650A. As far as I remember, every one of those except the Can-Am had a 19" front wheel. The 175 TNT was an Enduro model with a 21" front wheel. Late in its life, I put the 19" front wheel from a CB500 on it along with a mechanical front brake caliper from a CB200. I have no problem with 19" front wheels.

I checked. The R65LS had an 18" front wheel. I had to look it up so the difference didn't make much of an impression.

Stromin'Nroman 05-13-2015 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V-Tom (Post 3175961)
I was hoping you heard a rumour of a new "smaller" V-Strom. Something like a 500 cc V-Twin would be incredibly smooth, rev like crazy and be a blast to wind out!

..Tom

That would interest me more than something that BMW and Triumph already make.

I think what people really want is more power without the attendant downsides.

H Willis 05-13-2015 04:48 PM

I think the DL650 is the perfect bike to start with you can add plenty of bells and whistles as you go.


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