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post #1 of 13 Old 06-03-2007, 01:20 AM Thread Starter
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Heated grips

So how come the heated grip option is not available on the ' 07 650? Apparently the harness is different. Why? The heated grip option was one of the features that attracted me to the VStrom in the first place. And why does a bike of this type not have a centerstand? Thats just plain stupid. The bike is obviously designed to be ridden far and frequently and thus will need to be maintained and inspected while on a road trip. One should not have to purchase this item as an option. And why a chain? This bike with belt drive or a lightwieght shaft would be damn near perfect and a real alternative to the higher priced BMW models. I get the feeling the people who design these bikes don't spend a lot of time in their saddles or have any dirt under their fingernails.
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It's not the harness but the throttle. Aftermarket heated grips are probably a better choice for price and function anyway. The Suzuki heated grips include the throttle tube and the throttle changed for '07. The other stuff is about traditional modes of thinking and a desire to keep the price down.

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The shift to belts or shaft would be desireable... how much more would we be willing to pay for that?
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Belts would not be desirable for any off road riding and I wonder about shafts. They work well on street bikes with shorter suspension but may be more likely to failure on longer travel rear suspension systems.

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Belts and shafts

Interesting thought. So what do Buell and BWM know that Suzuki doesn't? Don't get me wrong, I really like the VStrom and riding mine puts a big smile on my face, I just really don't like chains.
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Chains are cheaper. Redesign the Strom with a shaft or belt and see where the price point goes. Only direction is up, probably way up. Chains and sprockets are relatively cheap compared to a shaft or belt. Try to re-gear a BMW for a different ratio. Not too likely. With the Stroms we get to experiment to our heart's content.

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please forgive my newb-ness, but what benefits would there be by having a shaft or belt drive over a chain? I read that in alot of posts that shaft drives are so much better, or belt drives are so much better, but why? Is it performance? Is it reliability?

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please forgive my newb-ness, but what benefits would there be by having a shaft or belt drive over a chain? I read that in alot of posts that shaft drives are so much better, or belt drives are so much better, but why? Is it performance? Is it reliability?
It's freedom from maintenance. Chains are fine final drives. Almost all race bikes use them. They are more efficient than shaft drives with less friction losses. They are stronger than belts. Notice the lack of belts on really high horsepower bikes. They are easier to change final drive ratios. The only real downside is the mess of external lubrication and the need to re-lube at short intervals.

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"The only real downside is the mess of external lubrication and the need to re-lube at short intervals."

Also having to replace sprockets and chains at intervals is a hassle. I have 130,000 miles on my shaft Honda Sabre. I probably would have replaced 6 set of chains and sprockets by now. Also lubing and chain tightening is more labor intensive than the every 12K easy oil change with the final drive.

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