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post #11 of 104 Old 04-18-2007, 10:26 PM Thread Starter
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True. I did the highlights after your post. Sorry for my round-about ways (worse when I'm pissed, and/or when I'm pissed).
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Learn to ride = no broken parts.........

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To you, and to PlanetMath.org ("A surd is an irrational number, which can be written as the sum of rational powers of rational numbers."), and to a real-estate attorney who recently told me that his fee is $325/hour, and to Cycle World of Daytona who wants $58 for a $0.10 part, my response is...
Oh no, you did not just say that to me!
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We're not having that kind of relationship, unless of course, I keep the bike.
They misrepresented the bike as dual-sport (DL650). That's bad enough... I sprain my knee attempting to get through 2 inches of sand (according to the off-road instructions that they issue with the bike!).
A "dual sport" is in the eyes of the beholder! Sounds like you need a dirtbike, perhaps a DR400, DR650 or KLR650. Also, if you had better tires on, you may have had a fighting chance of getting through the sand.

As for the dealer you dealt with....find another! They handled this very poorly, and it isn't the bikes fault. Put it up for sale if you want, I'm sure you'll sell it quickly. Or....you can get it fixed and have a very nice bike that you will absolutley love.

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The bike does weigh 500lbs, has street oriented dual sport tires, and has protruding objects. If you actually try to off-road it, odds are something bad is going to happen. Its just too big and bulky to be a true dual sport. Of course that still doesn't stop some of us from doing crazy things with it.
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I think your original post should have been titled "**** Cycle World of Daytona", not "**** Suzuki". Suzuki is not responsible for you hurting yourself trying to ride a 500 lb motorcycle through sand or for either one of your broken signals.

I do think the dealer could have handled it better. But to be honest, if I was the dealer and someone limped in saying he damaged one turn signal then asked to have the other one replaced under warranty, I might ask to see the bike also.

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Flush Mount Turn Signals, then it gets boring.

Ebay item 160106536889 is just one of 177 returns I got when I searched for flush turn in all categories. This item is neither the cheapest, dearest, worst, or best in my opinion.

Sooner or later, I'm likely to knock off a signal, so I will buy a pair of flush mount signals to effect cheap repairs that I may not need to repeat.

Today's trigonometry lesson begins ...

A secant is just a line that cuts a curve twice. In trigonometry, the secant of an angle is the reciprocal of the cosine, so it's the hypotenuse over the adjacent. This is a clumsy ratio to use because the secant of 90º is infinite. That means you have to make special cases of any situations involving right angles, as a lot of things do.

Trigonometry was an important part of my job in the early 1990s, and I was pleased to have the opportunity to thank the man who taught me trigonometry in the 1950s.

So, what do ya wanna do instead of trig class?

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I think your original post should have been titled "**** Cycle World of Daytona", not "**** Suzuki". Suzuki is not responsible for you hurting yourself trying to ride a 500 lb motorcycle through sand or for either one of your broken signals.

I do think the dealer could have handled it better. But to be honest, if I was the dealer and someone limped in saying he damaged one turn signal then asked to have the other one replaced under warranty, I might ask to see the bike also.
No, actually Suzuki set the policy on 1) not selling the piece separate,
and 2) requiring the whole bike be brought in for replacing any part under warranty.
The sand problem is a separate issue. The bike was not hurt and the sprain was mild when I flopped in the sand (thank Allah). I didn't buy the bike to ride off-road, I bought it because I thought that it was a decent road bike capable of getting in and out of my yard. It's just not much sand.
I broke the left turn-signal on my concrete barn floor.
I think that Suzuki is responsible for the cracked right-turn signal housing. That one is pristine in every other way and has never touched anything but wind. They exacerbate the simplest repair imaginable with their policies. Again, it disassembles by removing a grand total of 2 screws.
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PS-Thanks for the lead, Keith. Unfortunately, it's a 'once shame on you, twice shame on me' situation. With all due respect to The Donald; Suzuki, You're fired!

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No offense to those whom like to take their V-Stroms off road, but as someone who rides thousands of miles of technical off road trails each year, on my deep-geared, knobby-shod DRZ400, I can't imagine there is much joy in riding a V-Strom off road.

It seems obvious to me that the V-Strom is a killer back-road sport touring bike, and one that can handle the odd jaunt on a dirt road. But a dirtbike, or even a dual sport, it is clearly not.

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No offense to those whom like to take their V-Stroms off road, but as someone who rides thousands of miles of technical off road trails each year, on my deep-geared, knobby-shod DRZ400, I can't imagine there is much joy in riding a V-Strom off road.

It seems obvious to me that the V-Strom is a killer back-road sport touring bike, and one that can handle the odd jaunt on a dirt road. But a dirtbike, or even a dual sport, it is clearly not.
Thank you, Newfoundlander. That's about all the documentation I'll need to recover my loss (~$1500) in small claims court. They advertise the bike as "dual sport".
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