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post #21 of 45 Old 06-26-2013, 02:27 PM
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I don't keep track so I can't provide an average, but the longest I've gone on my 2012 is 275.
Most people I know get much better mileage than I do (something to do with riding style ); and based on what I have read here on Stromtrooper over the years almost everyone in the USA gets amazingly better mileage than I do.

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post #22 of 45 Old 06-26-2013, 02:51 PM
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Canadians have stronger wrist muscles, probably from all that snow shoveling. :mrgreen:



I got a negative review for a joke not taken as a joke at another site so I want to be clear.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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Truthfully, the Tiger 800XC is next to perfect regarding most of the above requirements. The thrifty side of me made me want the v-strom. To be clear, I have no regrets. Regarding future upgrades:
1) 19" front, spoked tubeless tires
2) Lower first gear
3) Another 20HP/15lb torque for increased fun factor

Everything else, I appreciate the personal choice and taste of farkling. Maintain a healthy aftermarket for upgrades/farkles for personality.

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Canadians have stronger wrist muscles, probably from all that snow shoveling. :mrgreen:



I got a negative review for a joke not taken as a joke at another site so I want to be clear.
Being German by Birth I very much understand humour (we had weekly lessons in it) and therefore very much enjoyed your humour.

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If you ask me, the Wee is *ALMOST* perfect, as is. The only things I'd change:
1) More ground clearance.
2) Spoked wheels.
3) Lighter weight/lower C.G. (but see note below).
4) Smaller, lighter, more aerodynamic front fairing (the 2012 and on Wee's were a step in the right direction).
5) Six gallon gas tank (the 2012's were a step in the *wrong* direction here, although it does help with weight and C.G.).

Pretty much everything else can (and IMHO, should) be aftermarket additions, and to be honest, some of the weight reduction can be achieved through aftermarket, as well. For example, on my K9, I am planning to replace the battery with a Shorai when the OEM gives up the ghost, and if I could stop throwing money at other things long enough to save up a few bucks, I'd put a lighter, less restrictive aftermarket exhaust on.

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with everything else, especially the engine. The 650 is plenty peppy for me, and there's always the 1K if you want to tour with a passenger and camping gear. But for those of us who want a reasonably capable tourer that can also head out into the back country on a whim, light weight, ground clearance, range and robustness are at the top of the wishlist.

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[URL="http://ak-vstrom.blogspot.com/search/label/XS750%20project"]1977 Yamaha XS750 -- project bike[/URL]
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post #26 of 45 Old 06-26-2013, 09:10 PM
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Hi, I like my 2010 Wee as it is but many of the suggestions in this thread sound ok, the only one that really made my ears prick up is the shaft drive. Bring that on!
However, I have a 'wish' that I could get a Wee, or any other non - cruiser bike, with the option of forward foot controls. To explain:
To cope with cramped legs and resultant back pain on long rides I have mounted highway pegs as have many others. Mine are bolted across the front of my heavy duty engine guard. This is the perfect place for my legs to stretch out to for comfort. BUT I hate having my feet away from brake and gears. So - what about a repeater for both, out front? Clever designers could design a type that folds up. A brake is only pushed down, so it could fold up on contact with rock or twig. Similarly, if the forward gear arrangement were a 'rocker' ie push back down to go up a gear and front down to go down a gear (Cruiser style) this could fold up also.
Then we'd have a bike that had comfortable highway cruising, as well as existing controls for any dirt stuff.
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A lot of votes here for wire wheels, I had them on my BMW and hated them. For true off roading they might be needed but I am lazy.

1. Lightweight shaft drive
2. 750cc but just bore or stroke the current motor. Keep the small size.
3. Place the muffler lower or make it an integral bash plate so the saddlebags can tuck in.
4. Better fairing with power adjustable windshield.
5. Make the fuel tank larger and use the larger size to redirect all the air coming up and hitting the rider. Do away with the plastic tank covers and make the tank plastic. The European companies do it. Place the large volume low like the BMW Adventure models for some leg protection.
6. A decent seat.
7. Options that are reasonably priced and work. (I bought the OEM heated grips, saddlebag liners and hand guards for my 2012 Adventure. Sold the grips and the liners. The hand guards may get changed this winter. All expensive junk sold at a huge loss.)
8. A centerstand should be standard or not $250 to $300.
9. Real tires from the factory. The Trail Wings make good rim protectors.
10. Better brakes or at least braided lines.
11. Lighter is always better but may be costly.

Am I willing to pay for this? Yes. If needed make it a new model and if it was $1,500 more than the 650 I'd be there.

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- Shaft drive
- 800cc
- Centre stand
- bigger fuel tank
That's all I need
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post #29 of 45 Old 06-27-2013, 03:31 AM
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Can someone explain the reason for all the shaft drive votes to the slow guy? My first bike (a CB550) was a shaftie, and my cafe racer project (XS750, still under construction) is a shaft drive, too. Personally, I'm much happier with the chain drive on the Wee. The shaft is heavy, complex and too restrictive. On the XS, I am stuck with XS wheels, at least on the back. On the Wee, I can have Woodies make a set of wheels for me if I want or go with OEM, because it's easy to find a hub to take a 525 sprocket. On the Wee, I can -- and did -- change the gearing for more pep in town and better control off pavement. For an upcoming trip with lots of long highway miles, I'll be changing gearing again for smoother highway cruising. With a shaft drive, changing gearing is non-trivial. Finally, while chains require a little more maintenance, cleaning and lubing is a ten minute job even for a complete n00b, and even replacing chains and/or sprockets is rather straightforward. On the other hand, I've heard enough horror stories from the guys riding the big BMW's to make me leery of a shaft drive ADV bike if you're going very far off the beaten path. So what am I missing? What's the big plus to offset these drawbacks?

DL650 K9:[LIST][*]SW-Motech crash bars, skidplate, side carriers, 12V power outlet,[*]Pelican 1430 cases,[*]Tech-Mount PDA holder,[*]Oxfords Sport heated grips,[*]Axio tail bag[*]Shinko 705 front and rear (Conti Trail Attacks currently fitted for a long road trip)[*]Richland Rick fork brace[*]Loobman chain oiler[*]Aftermarket DRZ400 footpegs[/LIST]
[URL="http://ak-vstrom.blogspot.com/search/label/XS750%20project"]1977 Yamaha XS750 -- project bike[/URL]
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post #30 of 45 Old 06-27-2013, 07:36 PM
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Less weight, Light makes it right, Spoke wheels 21 in front and 18 in rear
Plastic like the older KLRs that will bend and not break,,, Larger gas tank,
H/P is OK if they can bring the MPG up ,
Of course I got 1000 not a 650,
I have a rule if its over 500 LBs keep it out of the dirt,,,
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