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post #1 of 77 Old 08-06-2015, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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2016 finger lakes neva wish list

I am starting this thread to gather ideas for the 2016 Finger Lakes NEVA event. Let your ideas and suggestions fly! PS, lets keep it on a positive level!! This is not a complaint thread, constructive ideas only!
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My thoughts......

A. The campground was too big. I'd like a camp ground where we are all in one section. Rent one central camp site to be used for socializing and nightly camp fires.

B. The Route. I like the idea of one main Saturday route with a mix of secondary and dirt roads. Any dirt should be car passable. No hero sections planned. If a group wants more challenging rides they're free to go on their own.

C. Catered Meal. Great idea and was awesome. Just should be on neutral site and have setup and take down provided.

D. Riding Groups. Create a spreadsheet and post the link on page 1 with all other info. Eliminates the cut and paste fiasco. Have 3 rider levels of #1. Fast and Furious. Anything goes. High speeds and all terrain. #2. Brisk Group. Quick pace on paved & dirt roads. May stop to pee of take a pic or two. #3. The Tourist. Speed limit plus (5-10). Will stop for pics or local areas of interest. Annotate * those who have a GPS and are willing to lead or sweep. Have a pre-departure meeting/briefing to identify leaders and sweepers and spell out responsibilities of safe group riding. Break out and form groups. Quick group brief. Ride....


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My thoughts......

A. The campground was too big. I'd like a camp ground where we are all in one section. Rent one central camp site to be used for socializing and nightly camp fires.

B. The Route. I like the idea of one main Saturday route with a mix of secondary and dirt roads. Any dirt should be car passable. No hero sections planned. If a group wants more challenging rides they're free to go on their own.

C. Catered Meal. Great idea and was awesome. Just should be on neutral site and have setup and take down provided.

D. Riding Groups. Create a spreadsheet and post the link on page 1 with all other info. Eliminates the cut and paste fiasco. Have 3 rider levels of #1. Fast and Furious. Anything goes. High speeds and all terrain. #2. Brisk Group. Quick pace on paved & dirt roads. May stop to pee of take a pic or two. #3. The Tourist. Speed limit plus (5-10). Will stop for pics or local areas of interest. Annotate * those who have a GPS and are willing to lead or sweep. Have a pre-departure meeting/briefing to identify leaders and sweepers and spell out responsibilities of safe group riding. Break out and form groups. Quick group brief. Ride....


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I like and agree with most of your comments. The ride group signup did not work. This year too may changed their mind in the morning which group they wanted to join and then not and then again yes ... or never read what the routes or speed categories etc. were all about. Better just to sign up lead and sweep riders and do as you say. In the morning have riders join the lead and sweep riders, do a briefing for each group and off you go. That would work best if there was a larger meeting space for all to gather. The catered breakfast we had 2 years ago at the whiteface maintain resort I thought was a very nice start of the day.
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D. Riding Groups. Create a spreadsheet and post the link on page 1 with all other info. Eliminates the cut and paste fiasco. Have 3 rider levels of #1. Fast and Furious. Anything goes. High speeds and all terrain. #2. Brisk Group. Quick pace on paved & dirt roads. May stop to pee of take a pic or two. #3. The Tourist. Speed limit plus (5-10). Will stop for pics or local areas of interest. Annotate * those who have a GPS and are willing to lead or sweep. Have a pre-departure meeting/briefing to identify leaders and sweepers and spell out responsibilities of safe group riding. Break out and form groups. Quick group brief. Ride....


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I don't really fit into any of those groups

if I can make is next year, I would lead a steady pace group, (speed limit plus (5-10) that doesn't stop except for gas, I don't need no steenkin GPS to know where I'm going



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My thoughts......

A. The campground was too big. I'd like a camp ground where we are all in one section. Rent one central camp site to be used for socializing and nightly camp fires.

B. The Route. I like the idea of one main Saturday route with a mix of secondary and dirt roads. Any dirt should be car passable. No hero sections planned. If a group wants more challenging rides they're free to go on their own.

C. Catered Meal. Great idea and was awesome. Just should be on neutral site and have setup and take down provided.

D. Riding Groups. Create a spreadsheet and post the link on page 1 with all other info. Eliminates the cut and paste fiasco. Have 3 rider levels of #1. Fast and Furious. Anything goes. High speeds and all terrain. #2. Brisk Group. Quick pace on paved & dirt roads. May stop to pee of take a pic or two. #3. The Tourist. Speed limit plus (5-10). Will stop for pics or local areas of interest. Annotate * those who have a GPS and are willing to lead or sweep. Have a pre-departure meeting/briefing to identify leaders and sweepers and spell out responsibilities of safe group riding. Break out and form groups. Quick group brief. Ride....


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Very good comments. So far, my favorite campground was North Pole in 2013.
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I know some don't like the idea of multiple riding groups, but I don't see how we can accomodate all of the various riding preferences in one group. Some don't ever want to ride in dirt (tried it didn't like it) and some like dirt better than paved surfaces. I don't think we should exclude anyone based on the surfaces they like to ride on. The other challenge for planning will be finding a site that has good campsites, cabins and exciting terrain both paved and unpaved. The best facilities will always fill up early which means people will have to commit early.

In my mind, the group is made up of people who are motorcycling enthusiasts (as opposed to "bikers"), enjoy camping and the company of other like minded people, enjoy riding on new roads and trails in new areas, and people that have experience with VStroms and other ADV type bikes. We should not try to force our riding or accomodation likes/dislikes onto others in the group, but if someone wants to learn new riding techniques, learn more about a specific bike or accessories, etc. we can offer them assistance and support. If people want to break into smaller groups that offer similar paces and surfaces, that should be OK too. At the end of the day we can come together at the camp and share our stories and experiences. It worked great last year at Romney and I think it can here too!
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I considered this years event but just could not take the time to fit it in. Finger Lakes region makes it a 2 day ride at 1650 miles. Might have to put this on the must do list for 2016.

My take on group rides is don't make too much fuss about getting a perfect list together. Instead work on getting local riders to volunteer to help. While a few might have the "master plan", the locals can fill in by guiding a group on the same route. This keeps group size manageable. And it always seems to change when the time comes.

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I know some don't like the idea of multiple riding groups, but I don't see how we can accomodate all of the various riding preferences in one group. Some don't ever want to ride in dirt (tried it didn't like it) and some like dirt better than paved surfaces.
personally, I don't mind completely paved or completely dirt or a mix, I just don't like riding in big groups, 4-6 is ideal, over 9 is unacceptable imho



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I don't remember riding in group bigger then 9. Most of the time they are smaller. 6-7.
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