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post #1 of 52 Old 04-05-2010, 10:04 PM Thread Starter
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European people, beware of the American People in Cars !!! It is highly recommended that you do not enter an intersection when it turn green, you are recommended by many motorcycle magazines to wait 3 or 5 seconds then go, during this time you will look left and right. People here do not understand that Red means STOP.
Even if you have the right of way, be ready to be cut off. A person is allowed to make a right hand turn on red, however these people do not understand that RED means Stop first, let the people who have the green light go first. These people do rolling stops, and will go infront of you.
People on bicycles do not adhere to street laws, they ride on sidewalks at 20 miles an hour and do not pay attention to lights or signs. They will also teach their children to go thru red lights and stop signs.
The signals here go from Green to Yellow, then Red. We are supposed to stop at yellow, I have never seen this done here yet. In parts or europe going thru yellow is very costly!!
The lawenforcement is burdened with illegal aliens, drug wars with gangbangers, and other illegal entertainment that is not Taxed by the goverment. So do not expect to see police enforcing street laws unless you are in a school zone , they will get you there.

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European people, beware of the American People in Cars !!! It is highly recommended that you do not enter an intersection when it turn green, you are recommended by many motorcycle magazines to wait 3 or 5 seconds then go, during this time you will look left and right. People here do not understand that Red means STOP.
Even if you have the right of way, be ready to be cut off. A person is allowed to make a right hand turn on red, however these people do not understand that RED means Stop first, let the people who have the green light go first. These people do rolling stops, and will go infront of you.
People on bicycles do not adhere to street laws, they ride on sidewalks at 20 miles an hour and do not pay attention to lights or signs. They will also teach their children to go thru red lights and stop signs.
The signals here go from Green to Yellow, then Red. We are supposed to stop at yellow, I have never seen this done here yet. In parts or europe going thru yellow is very costly!!
The lawenforcement is burdened with illegal aliens, drug wars with gangbangers, and other illegal entertainment that is not Taxed by the goverment. So do not expect to see police enforcing street laws unless you are in a school zone , they will get you there.
I see your profiles says your in Utah. From personal experience the drivers in UT are the worst about red lights and stop signs. Most of the other states is happens, but it's not quite so rampant.

Oh and you forgot that since you are in the US you should be armed to the teeth just so you can fit in.

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Hmm, I have driven places besides the US that seem pretty crazy, Catania Sicily comes to mind

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Don't forget "lane discipline" on freeways. It doesn't exist.
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In Philadelphia, we have 'flash mobs'.

They can appear at a moments notice and clog the streets.

Just keep your tinted visor down and say "WAZZUP, DAWG? to every body and they'll happily let you pass. Wear a Michael Vick jersey and you're golden.

In all seriousness, car/truck drivers here have no respect for motorcylists (never mind anybody else). It's a pitiful state of affairs, sorry to say.

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Yes I live in UTAH .. I also grew up in california and Austria, lived in Nevada, traveled to most of the western USA, drove in long Island ,been to Italy, Spain, Switzerland, France, Greece,
But OMG, only here have I seen people actually stop on the freeway in the left lane so they could make the exit. I do not understand the need to be in the left lane. !!! WTF !!! The left lane is for passing, If you are not passing and you are traveling with the flow, stay to your right. I know it's ok to be in the left lane, but if these MORON'S must be in the left lane for no reason, then change the law and let us legally pass on the right !!!! For now it's okay to hold up faster vehicles by blocking the left lane, but if I pass on the right I will get a ticket. Yes that's a very reasonable rule.

Like I posted somewhere here on the forum. It is illegal in Austria to be in the left lane unless you are passing. If there are flashing headlights coming up from behind, you had better move right !!
In Austria when entering a freeway you had better accelerate to the speed limit!!! Stopping on the onramp could get you killed. I know Europe is laughing at the states for having monitoring lights on the freeway enterance. People are to stupid to enter properly and use the Zipper Rule when Merging into traffic.
Oh, most freeways in austria are still two lane and have 130km speeds !! Go figure, no traffic jams.

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I discussed this with some Navajos not too long ago, and they said the problem was caused by the all the foreigners here.
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Last summer I was on a road trip through Northern Italy (sadly in a car). I was amazed at how well the traffic moved and how much consideration was given to motorcycles on the road. Much of my driving was on curvy mountain roads where motorcycles had a distinct advantage. Many Italian car drivers actually hug the side of the road when they see a motorcycle approach to give them extra room to safety ride between the two opposing lanes of traffic. Very civilized indeed!

Another thing that I liked was the fact that they don't have many stop signs or traffic lights: they use roundabouts (traffic circles) instead. I think about that every time I'm stopped at a red light with no other traffic on the road...

I got the feeling that, on average, Italian drivers were "better" drivers than North American drivers. They seemed more attentive and polite which results in better traffic flow. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I never saw anyone with a phone to their head or shaving, or doing their makeup while driving. A day doesn't go by when I see this on the road here. As we all know, many drivers here just don't pay attention to the road and who is on it.

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