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post #11 of 25 Old 03-20-2019, 03:16 AM
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I think you are looking for the powered connection that is coming off the rear brake light switch. The connector I used is located above the rear brake pedal as it gets into the battery area.

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post #12 of 25 Old 03-20-2019, 03:45 PM
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Can anybody tell me if the one in the picture is the connection I should be using (middle one with white/green and white/brown)? Is the way to find out to disconnect the connection and check to see if I have brake lights?
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Is the way to find out to disconnect the connection and check to see if I have brake lights?
The wiring diagram from the factory service manual shows a solid brown wire powers your rear running light and licence plate light. It should be the same color wire as the one that powers your front parking light, which is super easy to remove and look at. Just reach under the beak and pull it out.
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That looks the same as mine. To be sure, disconnect it, activate the rear brake pedal and check for the brake light to come on. It shouldn't. But it will if you pull the front brake lever. I have the Eastern Beaver 3CS wiring harness. I test fitted it and all works as it should. I will be installing at a later date.

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The wiring diagram from the factory service manual shows a solid brown wire powers your rear running light and licence plate light. It should be the same color wire as the one that powers your front parking light, which is super easy to remove and look at. Just reach under the beak and pull it out.
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That looks the same as mine. To be sure, disconnect it, activate the rear brake pedal and check for the brake light to come on. It shouldn't. But it will if you pull the front brake lever. I have the Eastern Beaver 3CS wiring harness. I test fitted it and all works as it should. I will be installing at a later date.
With no offense intended for either brock29609 or rooster shooter, these two responses combined with one another confuse me. Since I am not so insecure as to be unwilling to show my own ignorance, I will rephrase my question.

I assumed I needed to tap in to the brake light connection/wires, not the running light and license plate light connection/wires. First, am I correct? Next, I think that connection I identified above (white connector with white and green wire and white and brown wire) is the brake light wire. Disconnecting that, pressing the rear brake and observing actuation of the brake light will confirm that for me. Am I correct? Finally, assuming that I disconnect that white connector and I have no brake light when I press on the rear brake, have I now identified my correct trigger point? Thanks again.

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post #16 of 25 Old 03-20-2019, 07:15 PM
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you are correct.

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you are correct.
Thanks for confirming that for me. I appreciate it.
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Hope you got it sorted out. I concur with Nicad.

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I assumed I needed to tap in to the brake light connection/wires, not the running light and license plate light connection/wires.
If you're trying to tap into a wire that produces power when the bike is on, and doesn't when the bike is off, you want the running light/parking light/licence plate light wire.

If you want a wire that produces power only when you apply the brakes, you want the brake light wire which is white with black stripe, per my factory wiring diagram.

The connector for the tail light has a ground wire (black with white stripe) plus the two wires mentioned above.
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This gets more and more interesting all the time. I am a combat veteran; but, when I look at wiring diagrams and schematics, I just want to grab a blanket and a pacifier and curl up in a corner and cry. Having said that, I guess I'll have to do some extensive reading and learn more. Heck, it's what I do for most things. As ignorant as I am though, I am always willing to show my ignorance and to tap into the knowledge of others.

In the meantime, I belong to forums pertaining to all my hobbies. One of those is motorcycles. The nice thing about these forums is that one can rely on the experiences and expertise of others. The unfortunate thing is that you get different answers that seem to conflict when you are (I am) not the subject matter expert. I went last night from "problem solved" and ready to do this on Saturday to, this morning, I need to research it myself.

I originally got the feeling that this thread was about installing an Eastern Beaver PC-8 on a 2017 DL650 XT and, since I have an Eastern Beaver PC-8 and a 2017 DL650 EXT on/in which I wish to install it, I had found the perfect thread to get a simple answer. I do realize there is more than one way to skin a cat and everything I have been told so far, seems correct, based on my small pool of knowledge.

Now, going forward.

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If you're trying to tap into a wire that produces power when the bike is on, and doesn't when the bike is off
Yes, I am.

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If you want a wire that produces power only when you apply the brakes, you want the brake light wire which is white with black stripe, per my factory wiring diagram.
I do not want that.

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The connector for the tail light has a ground wire (black with white stripe) plus the two wires mentioned above.
I will look for that. I assume it will have the exact connector provided by Eastern Beaver.

On another note. I would have assumed that there were two sets of wires for the rear brake light system. That there would be one between the power supply and the brake switch that would always be live when the bike is on and would satisfy our/my needs AND that there would be a set of wires for that rear brake "system" that would be dormant, for lack of a better term, until such time as the rear brake was depressed, actuating a switch, which would allow current to flow to the rear brake light/indicator. Even with very rudimentary electrical knowledge and understanding, that makes sense to me; but, apparently it is not the case. Yes/No?

To all of you entertaining and enduring my inquiries, don't let anything I said above make me sound like an ingrate. I truly appreciate your patience, input, knowledge and information. I want to a) do it right; and, b) learn better for future endeavors.
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