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post #1 of 29 Old 07-29-2012, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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Can it pass a truck?

I like everything I see and read about the 2012 DL650, but looking for opinions on power. I had a DL1000 that I sold a few years back, and loved it once I had it set up right.

Can the new DL650 quickly pass a truck, uphill, high altitude (6000 ft), loaded with luggage? I never used all the power of the 1000, but it sure was nice to drop a gear and move past anything that was in the way. Not sure if I'll be happy with the power of the 650.

I know "power" is pretty subjective and depends on the weight you are packing. I'm 155 lb, carry about 50 lb of luggage, and don't ride 2-up.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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How fast? Are we talking about starting at 55mph and trying to pass, or starting at 70 mph and trying to pass?

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I about 100lbs more than you (weight 250) and I think it has no problems. I went cruising on the Hwy today at about 70 mph and twisted the throttle 1/2 inch and I was at 80 + in no time. Didnt' even open it up. These new bikes are geared well for all ranges. Just my opinion. I had a 2006 V-Strom 650 and this bike is much better in every way.
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How fast? Are we talking about starting at 55mph and trying to pass, or starting at 70 mph and trying to pass?

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Accelerating from around 50 MPH up to 75 MPH without having to completely wind it out and wonder if you are ging to make it.
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From 50 to 75, as long as you're in 5th, should be fine. I'm not familiar on how much the altutude will affect it, but I weigh the same, carry similar weight, and for a QUICK pass think 5th gear would work just fine. 6th would cruise at 50, but I don't think itll accelerate quick enough without dropping a gear.

That being said, the wee seems to accelerate quick enough starting around 4500. Below that is good cruising, and will accelerate, just not quickly.

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I did this recently. Fully loaded with a week worth of camping gear, going up to 5800 ft, via the Kootenay Pass (Salmo to Creston BC). The pass decently steep and we were heading east to Creston. It's steep to the point where I remember driving it years ago with a 1997 Nissan Pathfinder and I had to floor it and couldn't hold 50 mph.

Overall, I would say the bike performed admirably. In 6th gear I could easily hold 60 - 65 MPH the entire way. By dropping down a gear, I could pop it over 75 MPH+ without too many concerns. It certainly wasn't a rocket, but I could pass any vehicle along the way without going full throttle (but close). I would consistently walk away from my riding partners Yamaha Road King 1600.

Would I like more power? Of course! But overall, the DL650 is all that I have needed. It's not a rocket, but as long as your goal is to keep close to the speed limit and enjoy the scenery, you are going to be satisfied. I came from a high torque R1200C and after a 3500 km trip, I can say that I am more satisfied with the performance of this bike on the highway.

Edit: that 3500 km trip went from Calgary > Waterton Park > Going to the Sun Highway (Glacier) > Kalispell > Sandpoint > Spokane > Grand Coulee Dam > Chelan > Leavenworth > Anacortes > Sidney > Victoria > Qualcom Beach > Tofino > Sidney > Anacortes > Winthrop > Highway 20 across to Tiger > Creston > Cranbrook > Crowsnest > Calgary. Never once during that entire trip did I feel I was short on power.

Note - I'm not a light - over 200 lbs.

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I like everything I see and read about the 2012 DL650, but looking for opinions on power. I had a DL1000 that I sold a few years back, and loved it once I had it set up right.

Can the new DL650 quickly pass a truck, uphill, high altitude (6000 ft), loaded with luggage? I never used all the power of the 1000, but it sure was nice to drop a gear and move past anything that was in the way. Not sure if I'll be happy with the power of the 650.

I know "power" is pretty subjective and depends on the weight you are packing. I'm 155 lb, carry about 50 lb of luggage, and don't ride 2-up.

Any thoughts appreciated.
Does your car pass adequately?

Because the DL650 does 0-60 in about 4 seconds and does the quarter mile in a little over 12 seconds with a trap speed of over 100mph. Something that very, very few cars can do.

What you can't do is ride it like a Harley. You've got to get the rpms up in the 7-9,000 range for maximum boost. So you'd be downshifting a gear or two.

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See how often in normal overtaking you get to full throttle, and for how long on similar inclines / altitudes. If you're always on the stop for hours at an end, the bike would seem to me to be underpowered for your level of ability / needs.

In my experience. on UK roads, I now I can thrash a 125 at full throttle for quite a while on our "A" roads, hardly ever hit it on my L2 even two up, though it's not been tested at a mile high so far, that's in a months time when wee'll be on the Grossglockner.
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Yes! As mentioned above the 650 has more acceleration than most cars. It really does have good midrange for a 650 and even with the 16 tooth countershaft sprocket I am running, twisting the throttle in 6th gear moves the speedometer up nicely.

What it won't do that the 1000 did was give you the burst of speed the 1000 can give with one downshift. You need to downshift 2 or 3 gears in the situation you describe.

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The 0-60 times are where the Wee shines. 60-90, not so much. Still, I find going down to 4th to begin with when passing puts the engine in a better spot in the power band and moves me significantly faster than any car I've ever owned. 4th is perfect for the 60-90 spread.

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