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post #1 of 25 Old 05-06-2012, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
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Why Suzuki decided make ABS standard with no way to disable it.

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Yeah, it's not a MX bike, can't see why anyone would be riding at hyperspeed on the dirt.

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I agree, also if given the choice between more options or less, I prefer to have options, such as disabling the system
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There are times when disabling ABS is preferable. Try going down a steep hill in the dirt and see if you still like having it on.

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If your going down a really steep hill, then just do it at less then 5mph and the ABS won't work anyway. Or turn the engine off, put the bike in gear and use the clutch as a rear brake.

The percentage of Vstrom owners that ride down steep dirt hills is probably 0.01%
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There are times when disabling ABS is preferable. Try going down a steep hill in the dirt and see if you still like having it on.
Have you tried it? I have. I just rode the rear brake down the hill and was easily able to stop part-way down.

I've yet to hear of a real-world example where someone can point to this as a problem. I think it's more that BMW implemented it because they thought it might be important, so then it became a check-list item.

No doubt there are scenarios - just think it's mighty rare that some on an "Adventure Touring" bike would be in one. I bet the percentage of S10 and Triumph Explorer that go off road (not dirt roads - off roads) is about the same it is for the V-Strom and R1200GS owners I know - about 1 out of 10.

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The percentage of Vstrom owners that ride down steep dirt hills is probably 0.01%
I guess I am one of the elites.

Early in my 'Strom ownership I followed several more accomplished riders on more capable bikes up what once might have been a road.

Coming down is another story, I quickly learned the folly of not pulling the ABS fuse. The guy on the GS1200 Adventure ahead of me disabled his ABS which involved turning off the bike and turning it back on. It ws kinda scary, the bike picked up speed and before I could kill the motor to deadhead down, a nice rock yanked the bars hard to the left and my buddies had to pull 450# of wanna-be MX racebike off my leg.

It was a relatively soft landing but cost a windsheild and turn signal.

The video, which was posted before, is a rather different situation.

There's a good chance that had I been running knobbies (like the bloke in the video) I'd have had enough traction for the ABS not to have intervened.

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I am going to pull the fuse here and see how it handles in the dirt. Someday.

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There are times when disabling ABS is preferable. Try going down a steep hill in the dirt and see if you still like having it on.
I did, it had an inch of slimy clay on it as well. Stopped better on that than my K6 would have.

Done the steep downhill covered in wet flat river stones as well. (With a water crossing at the bottom) - also fine.

Yes, you have to ride a bit differently - but for me the brakes work better on dirt with ABS than they did on my K6 without.


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Done the steep downhill covered in wet flat river stones as well.
That is exactly the same situation I was in when my ABS left me with no braking. I wonder what (if anything) is different with the ABS on the 2012's?

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