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post #1 of 27 Old 02-16-2012, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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Where did the weight on the '12 go

I already committed to a '11 but I am curious where they lost the 13 pounds on the 12 at.
I noticed they mentioned lighter abs components but that hardly seems like it would be 13 pounds.
I also read they went to a phenolic rack, probably a little loss there.
the frame is supposed to be the same.
Anybody know for certain where it came from?

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I already committed to a '11 but I am curious where they lost the 13 pounds on the 12 at.
I noticed they mentioned lighter abs components but that hardly seems like it would be 13 pounds.
I also read they went to a phenolic rack, probably a little loss there.
the frame is supposed to be the same.
Anybody know for certain where it came from?
Just guessing:
1. The fairing
2. The exhaust
3. Smaller gas tank
4. Oil cooler is embedded in engine, instead of hanging out as a separate unit
5. EDIT: Lighter rear rack. The 2011 rear rack is surprisingly heavy (but seems built to last).

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The 1/2 gallon less fuel saves about 3lbs. The fairing is smaller. The engine has single valve springs instead of dual. The windshield system is lighter. Little things add up.

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Little things do add up, personally I think I'd rather have the 1/2 gallon of gas even though the new one is supposed to get better mileage, I never seem to be one of those who actually gets better mileage though as I was told the same thing on my 1050 Tiger when I sold the 955i.
I'm going to have a close look at mine when it comes in. I'm not particularly obsessed with weight especially as I'll be adding drop bars and skid plate along with the luggage, but it makes one curious.
I'd almost guess if the exhaust is typical of oem theres probably a lot of weight right there to save.

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they also changed the center of gravity, so it doesnt feel so top heavy, in my opinion..
I like the new design..I don't think I would have missed the 1/2 gallon of fuel.
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how can you say they changed the VCOG

no one seems to publish VCOG data

and tilting a bike a bit off center is qualitative, not quantitative

its really the same frame, engine, wheels etc etc, there was not much to reduce, though it sounds like what little they deducted was up top (rack, fuel, fairings etc)

when I first bought my used Wee I was a bit pissed off at how top heavy it is, but over time you get used to it - and - that same high VCOG means its very easy to balance once you are riding it, even at almost-standstill speeds
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one of the reports that I had read before buying it was that the weight was shifted forward directly under the rider making the bike handle better, blah blah blah...thats all I remember from the article...but i can definatly tell the difference between the 2011 and 2012 models.
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Little things do add up, personally I think I'd rather have the 1/2 gallon of gas even though the new one is supposed to get better mileage, I never seem to be one of those who actually gets better mileage though as I was told the same thing on my 1050 Tiger when I sold the 955i.//
If it's any consolation, the 800's on the market - which get worse mileage - have no more than a 5.3 gallon tank. Either model will still one of the longest-ranging bikes sold.

The smaller tank created a "benign circle." It's steel, so less steel is less weight. There is less material required to surround it, and you've removed 5-6 pounds from the top of the bike.

In person, I found the '12 bike much less appealing and "built to a price" than the initial reviews. But the character of a motorcycle is largely determined by the engine, and that engine is terrific.

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one of the reports that I had read before buying it was that the weight was shifted forward directly under the rider making the bike handle better, blah blah blah...thats all I remember from the article...but i can definatly tell the difference between the 2011 and 2012 models.
It does turn better than the old model for sure.

Wheels may be lighter as well.

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It does turn better than the old model for sure.

Wheels may be lighter as well.

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The wheels are unchanged.

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