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post #1 of 11 Old 09-09-2018, 10:15 AM Thread Starter
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Question Time to pass on a '13?

Hey everyone... looking for opinions on my '13 650 adventure. I now have 65k (kms) on it. I bought it at the end of 2013 used with 10k on the clock... It's been an absolute blast, but on the last trip it let me down. I managed to get home on it with a bit of stress. The general question is - should I invest in this one that I have just the way I like it, or, pass it on, and invest in a new '18 or '19 next year?

My preference is to stick with this one as I've got it they way I like it with: seat, windshield, agustus deflectors, bags, pegs, mirrors and a few other customizations.
However, I'm now worried that the next time it might be something catastrophic that will require a truck to get home.

Here are the things I've done to it so far over the years - what else should I do to ensure it gives me many more happy miles?

- Stator. Burned out the first one before the recall. For the recall they sent back my burnt one, so I actually have a spare now.
- New double sealed Japanese wheel bearings. A friend though maybe something was wrong with stock. They ended up being ok, but cheap insurance in case they were bad.
- Chain and sprockets (obviously). Current set has 10k on them maybe.
- Brake pads
- Coolant changed (7k ago)
- Plugs changed
- Valve recall done at ~45k - nothing was wrong and they only only adjusted one that was a bit loose.
- Replaced dash and front wire harness. Water got in the original - this one is now well sealed.
- New starter/kill switch assembly is in the mail (this is the most recent failure)
- Battery, filter and a few sets of tires. no bulbs yet though.

These are this things I'm worried about:
- Fuel pump - it's getting louder and louder
- Starter and/or starter gear on the crank. With the busted switch - I drove it at least once with the starter engaged and headlights out. Took me a bit to figure out what the noise was when I had the clutch pulled in! :-(
- Front spring/shocks.. I sometimes times think that the front is just a spring and no longer good at damping.
- Clutch? I'm not hard on it or anything, but, it is a wear item, and how long do they last?
- General health and condition of the hoses, wires, switches, etc...

Thoughts? Of course, if money were no object it'd be on the block already and new one on order - every year there would be a new one at the start of the year! ;-)
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If it was me, and I had the $$ to do it...I'd go new.
"My preference is to stick with this one as I've got it they way I like it with: seat, windshield, agustus deflectors, bags, pegs, mirrors and a few other customizations.
However, I'm now worried that the next time it might be something catastrophic that will require a truck to get home."
You mention all these.."farkles", but your issue is with the basic motorcycle, not your mods and add-ons.
Anything can be repaired given enough time, effort, and money. The question is--and only YOU can answer it--is it worth your time, effort and money to keep on with this bike when there is a new, updated model available with a warranty, and a purchasable extended warranty?
A new bike can have problems also. But if reliability is your main concern, the best you can hope for is to tilt the odds in your favor.
Your call.
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Not sure a bad starter switch, a known issue for Stroms as they do not use relays in that circuit (remedy: Eastern Beaver, et al) would indicate an unreliable platform. There are numerous reports of Stroms favorable reliability. That said, there are things that can help to promote that reliability.

With only 40k miles on the clock it seems early to pass on a bike you have made fit your riding style and needs. Farkles are not just money spent on fancy. Most additions to the platform address specific issues of design (buffeting, suspension, etc.) and are cumulative in there improvement. A new bike will require the same thought process and additional monetary expenditure to reach a similar state.

The costs to take care of known issues and maintain your current bike should be substantially lower than those associated with the purchase and oufitting a newer model. Maintenance items are a constant but knowing your platform intimately is worth a great deal.

Only you can make the decision on whether to pass but if it is truly only a question of reliability so long as you are current in maintenance, then, as my father used to say: "...the Devil you know may be better than the Devil you don't know!!"

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You did not do the headlamp relay kit. That done in your starter switch. Many threads about that here. Likely still a problem with the newer model although that does not have the dual headlights any longer (correct??), so less load on the switch.

If you think you damaged the starter, get a used one from ebay and switch it out.

Fuel Pump: Pull the fuel pump and clean/ replace the external filter. Not sure the exact configuration of your model. Check it and see if that's possible. Some people suggest to reverse the motor polarity and pum some fuel through it backwards to clean the internal filter. I have no experience doing that. After the cleaning do the flow test: https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-d...t-results.html


Put fuel treatment into a full tank when you put it way for the season with a full tank.

Fluids: Its time to change all fluides, especially the fork oil. It will revive the forks! If you want a much nicer setup dump a set of Ricor valves in, makes a huge difference with the stock springs! And maybe send the shock out for a rebuild and re-spring, now you have a much better suspension than your new WEE.

Clutch: Just clean the area behind the sprocket cover and lube the pivot nipple in the clutch lever to keep the cable healthy. Don't lube the cable, its Teflon coated. The clutch will outlast you.

So yes there are some maintenance items due to keep the current bike healthy that are not needed right away on a new bike, but then you could use the money you save on several real nice trips instead by keeping your current bike.

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Not sure a bad starter switch, a known issue for Stroms as they do not use relays in that circuit (remedy: Eastern Beaver, et al) would indicate an unreliable platform. There are numerous reports of Stroms favorable reliability. That said, there are things that can help to promote that reliability.

With only 40k miles on the clock it seems early to pass on a bike you have made fit your riding style and needs. Farkles are not just money spent on fancy. Most additions to the platform address specific issues of design (buffeting, suspension, etc.) and are cumulative in there improvement. A new bike will require the same thought process and additional monetary expenditure to reach a similar state.

The costs to take care of known issues and maintain your current bike should be substantially lower than those associated with the purchase and oufitting a newer model. Maintenance items are a constant but knowing your platform intimately is worth a great deal.

Only you can make the decision on whether to pass but if it is truly only a question of reliability so long as you are current in maintenance, then, as my father used to say: "...the Devil you know may be better than the Devil you don't know!!"

Good luck with whichever decision you make.
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You did not do the headlamp relay kit. That done in your starter switch. Many threads about that here. Likely still a problem with the newer model although that does not have the dual headlights any longer (correct??), so less load on the switch.

If you think you damaged the starter, get a used one from ebay and switch it out.

Fuel Pump: Pull the fuel pump and clean/ replace the external filter. Not sure the exact configuration of your model. Check it and see if that's possible. Some people suggest to reverse the motor polarity and pum some fuel through it backwards to clean the internal filter. I have no experience doing that. After the cleaning do the flow test: https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-d...t-results.html


Put fuel treatment into a full tank when you put it way for the season with a full tank.

Fluids: Its time to change all fluides, especially the fork oil. It will revive the forks! If you want a much nicer setup dump a set of Ricor valves in, makes a huge difference with the stock springs! And maybe send the shock out for a rebuild and re-spring, now you have a much better suspension than your new WEE.

Clutch: Just clean the area behind the sprocket cover and lube the pivot nipple in the clutch lever to keep the cable healthy. Don't lube the cable, its Teflon coated. The clutch will outlast you.

So yes there are some maintenance items due to keep the current bike healthy that are not needed right away on a new bike, but then you could use the money you save on several real nice trips instead by keeping your current bike.
Everything these guys recommend is good advice; the Eastern Beaver kit has been promoted heavily (R.I.P. GreyWolf), for years now. My 2012 just hit 40,000 miles; it's farkled to perfection, and I've done pretty much most of the mods and maintenance discussed above. I've never had a reliability issue, and as far as I'm concerned, this bike has just hit it's prime. To buy a Gen-3 V-Strom now, and outfit it the same way, would be an expensive proposition for only a modest improvement, from the Gen-2 bike that you and I both own.

But here's the thing: As far as MOST motorcyclists are concerned, at least around here where it's mostly bar-hoppers on cruisers, your bike would be considered extremely high mileage. You will probably have a hard time selling it, or else you'll have to practically give it away- in which case selling the 2013 just to replace it with a 2017+ becomes even more expensive. But only you can make that decision. Good luck!
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65Kilos is low mileage

The starter would bother me, but it's easy to replace.
The stator can shit out on new bikes.
Noisy fuel pump is most likely the strainer or high pressure filter. 65 km is about time to look at it.
The starter switch is an easy clean the contacts repair.
Clutches last a long time and plates are cheap and easy to replace.

If the bike suited me and I still enjoyed it I would keep it.

I had a 2007 DL1000 I rode to within a few hundred miles over 100,000 miles. I had the money to replace it without financing and to be honest, I was ready for a change. I keep bikes for around 75,000 miles to 100,000 miles then replace them.

My Tenere will be gone at the 5 year mark when the warranty expires and when it should be at around 75,000 miles.
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65Kilos is low mileage

The starter would bother me, but it's easy to replace.
The stator can shit out on new bikes.
Noisy fuel pump is most likely the strainer or high pressure filter. 65 km is about time to look at it.
The starter switch is an easy clean the contacts repair.
Clutches last a long time and plates are cheap and easy to replace.

If the bike suited me and I still enjoyed it I would keep it.

I had a 2007 DL1000 I rode to within a few hundred miles over 100,000 miles. I had the money to replace it without financing and to be honest, I was ready for a change. I keep bikes for around 75,000 miles to 100,000 miles then replace them.

My Tenere will be gone at the 5 year mark when the warranty expires and when it should be at around 75,000 miles.
Or until you hit another deer.

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Or until you hit another deer.
I deserved that.

Deer strikes don't count unless they put me in the hospital again.
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It sounds like you lost confidence in the old one. Buy a new leftover or a low miles used one. Maybe time to try a 1000. :-)

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Keep it. It's mod'd to suit you and those hours spent are a sunk cost. You will have to reinvest all that time.

Do the maintenance and additional mods recommended and keep it going!

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