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post #1 of 46 Old 03-14-2015, 10:21 AM Thread Starter
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What's your take/experience on this break in method.

Contrary to all mfg advice I've ever seen.

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Looking forward to real life experience replies on this myself.
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Motoman or any other method of break in utilizing cylinder pressure and varying speeds works great.

Babying an engine is the last thing you want to do.

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This comes up on all the motorcycle forums I read. General consensous is that it really doesn't matter how the engine is "broke in". The manufacturer's procedure works, Moto guys works. Do what you want it especially with the Strom motor.

Some seem to think that the motor has never been run on a new bike. More than likely the factory redlines the motor through the gears before it gets installed in the frame. Modern motors have much tighter tolerances and don't need extended break in procedure's anyway.

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Just ride it like you normally would and follow the oil change procedures.
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Just ride it like you normally would and follow the oil change procedures.
+1 on this.

In fact, the chief technician told me before I rode mine out of the shop when I asked him about a break in period...he just smiled and told me to "ride it like you just stole it!" He suggested not going over 9,000 RPM's until it had a few hundred miles on it but otherwise, "let 'er rip!"...... :mrgreen:

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Madness!

Seriously though, who is more likely to offer the more credible advise on engine break-in; the outfit that designed, manufactures, warrants and whose reputation depends on the engine performance and durability or some guy on the internet?

More specifically, engine break-in is not all about ring to cylinder wall sealing, all of the other contact points within the engine are a consideration as well. While contemporary manufacturing methods do yield improved tolerances between parts compared to the methods of yore, there is still a wearing in process at numerous contact points within the engine; e.g. cam lobes to followers, bearings to journals, etc. Until they do wear in there is increased localized heating at these concentrated points of contact. To avoid damage from this localized heating, engine speeds and loads are best kept at moderate levels.

One thing I did not see in the referenced article, but have in other articles recommending the 'ride it hard' break-in method, is that racing engines do not receive a moderate speeding/loading break-in and maximum performance is demanded from racing engines. Engines used for racing typically don't have the time or mileage available to reasonably allow a moderate speed/load break-in. Secondly, longevity is not a priority in racing applications. Even endurance racing applications have a goal of only several thousand miles or so before rebuilds. For street applications we're looking for much, much more.
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Madness!

Seriously though, who is more likely to offer the more credible advise on engine break-in; the outfit that designed, manufactures, warrants and whose reputation depends on the engine performance and durability or some guy on the internet?

More specifically, engine break-in is not all about ring to cylinder wall sealing, all of the other contact points within the engine are a consideration as well. While contemporary manufacturing methods do yield improved tolerances between parts compared to the methods of yore, there is still a wearing in process at numerous contact points within the engine; e.g. cam lobes to followers, bearings to journals, etc. Until they do wear in there is increased localized heating at these concentrated points of contact. To avoid damage from this localized heating, engine speeds and loads are best kept at moderate levels.

One thing I did not see in the referenced article, but have in other articles recommending the 'ride it hard' break-in method, is that racing engines do not receive a moderate speeding/loading break-in and maximum performance is demanded from racing engines. Engines used for racing typically don't have the time or mileage available to reasonably allow a moderate speed/load break-in. Secondly, longevity is not a priority in racing applications. Even endurance racing applications have a goal of only several thousand miles or so before rebuilds. For street applications we're looking for much, much more.

LMAO.......no the madness is following recommendations written by lawyers. And you do realize that some out there on the internet, are very much experts on certain subject matter? The discussions of engine break in just cracks me up, it is right up there with being told you should not use synthetic oil until the engine is good and broken in.

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For over 30 years now ALL bikes, trucks, & cars have had the dog poop run outta them ( with NO sustained loads however) by myself and I have not had ANY oil burners, etc. as a result and have all been strong performers. (Even the '08+ "Oil Burning" KLR 650's).
NOTE: I also do stuff like change the oil & filter @ 25~100 miles, do a refill, usually w/ Rotella, run it to 1000~1500 miles and then start to feed it Mobil 1 full synthetic per manufactures recommendations (15~ 50 for bikes).
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Break in methods are like religions to me. Devoted people have allegiance to their own beliefs and think other practices will send the holders to hell. Any actual differences before anyone dies seem less than apparent. Extremists may be the exception in both cases. I would neither baby engines nor beat them.

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