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post #1 of 28 Old 03-13-2015, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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Belt drive???

Check out this belt drive conversion....no clue what it says, but I want it. Thought?

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I LIKE it!

I've never owned a belt drive bike but my HD friends really like theirs. They seem to last a long time and the days of chain cleaning and lubing would go away with this set up.

Wonder if it is in production? Costs? I'd go for it if the cost wasn't prohibitive.

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There are pluses and minus to belt drives that I won't get into.. but from the diagram I don't se how it wil work without adding a belt tensioner.

The drive pully and the front swing arm pivot point need to be inline if you want to use a belt without an idler. They aren't so the setup as shown will not work as the belt will slip.

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I had a belt drive on my Road King; 50,000 miles on the original belt when I sold it, and it still looked new. No maintenance, no mess; I loved it. One reason for trading my V-strom was I hated the chain drive.

There's a good thread on here somewhere with an explanation why belt drives aren't a good choice for a longer travel suspension bike the the V-strom. I can't remember what the exact explanation was, but it made sense to me when I read it.

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I loved the belt drive on my Vic == 35000+ miles. Little to no maintenance. I think they may be more prone to rocks as most come with an under guard too.

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I would be leery of a belt-drive conversion on any bike designed for chain drive. A BMW tech once told me that early BMW 650 singles with belt drives experience premature countershaft bearing wear and failure because the engines, which were the same as those used in the chain-driven bikes, were not designed for the greater tension associated with a belt-drive system.
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One person said it would not work off road because of rocks...but I really only usr mine on pavement.

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For a road bike, the belt is a great thing. For a bike meant for roads and unpaved roads, (I don't see the V-strom as a single track machine - what you do with yours is up to you...) the belt is probably the worst possible choice.

Yes the belts can last up to 120,000 miles, and they are very low maintenance. But the 1 thing that will kill a $3-400 belt in seconds is a small rock or gravel that gets wedged between the belt and the pulley and splits the belt. Most times it's GAME OVER.

So that's why its a bad choice for a dual sport.

As for chains, I understand that with regular cleaning and lube with a dry Teflon lube like DuPont chain saver, people are getting 40,000 miles out of their chains.

I always thought that shaft drive was pretty great, but BMW and the Suzuki C50 disabused me of those notions. So all things considered and for the type of machine the DL-650 is. the chain is the way to go.

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Shaft drive CAN be a great thing ... when appropriately engineered. OLD BMWs had little to no trouble, it's just the new ones that earned a reputation as grenades.

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As for chains, I understand that with regular cleaning and lube with a dry Teflon lube like DuPont chain saver, people are getting 40,000 miles out of their chains.
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I'd be surprised.

The ones that are getting 40,000 or more miles out of their chains are the ones that either use chain oilers to keep their chains continuously lubed (and use oil of some sort) or are people like me that never waste effort cleaning but lube with an oil based product with every tank of gas and after every ride in the rain.

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