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post #1 of 10 Old 02-19-2015, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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She's a Wee bit dead

Came out to go to my faithful Wee to go to work the other morning. Turned the key but did not hear the usual routine of fuel pump, etc. Hit the starter button and she spun over great (good battery) but no start. I switched the key on & off a few times and it went back to normal. Rode it 25 miles to work, no problem. Next morning the problem resurfaced and can't get it to go at all now.
Instead of the usual speedo & tach gyrations, the fuel gauge has a dash pulsing across the fuel level graph. I get the FI alert like I did a while back when the vac line came off the sensor on the airbox. But, unlike that event, this issue keeps the motor from starting.
My son says it's either a bad ground or a pinched fuel line. If it were a pinched line I would think it would show up right after I lifted the tank last. But that was 200 miles ago.
Does anyone know what the dash across the fuel meter indicate? I'll be lifting the tank this weekend to take a look. I'm leaning toward an electrical issue.
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Came out to go to my faithful Wee to go to work the other morning. Turned the key but did not hear the usual routine of fuel pump, etc. Hit the starter button and she spun over great (good battery) but no start. I switched the key on & off a few times and it went back to normal. Rode it 25 miles to work, no problem. Next morning the problem resurfaced and can't get it to go at all now.
Instead of the usual speedo & tach gyrations, the fuel gauge has a dash pulsing across the fuel level graph. I get the FI alert like I did a while back when the vac line came off the sensor on the airbox. But, unlike that event, this issue keeps the motor from starting.
My son says it's either a bad ground or a pinched fuel line. If it were a pinched line I would think it would show up right after I lifted the tank last. But that was 200 miles ago.
Does anyone know what the dash across the fuel meter indicate? I'll be lifting the tank this weekend to take a look. I'm leaning toward an electrical issue.

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If you get that FI on the dash then you need to put it in dealer mode and tell us what the code(s) are. Aside from that do as spec said. But from what I've read here are some possibilities. There is a bad connection somewhere, maybe not at the battery since you said it turns over. It also possible that someone has bumped your kill switch. You may have a bad fuel pump relay, or the pump itself has gone bad. You can apply 12v straight to the pump to test it.I'd also like to know if you've put your headlights on relays? (i.e. eastern beaver relay kit)
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Slightly off topic, but when I read wingnut11s comment about the kill switch it reminded me of a situation years ago. Came back to my bike, Triumph 750 and spent 15 minutes trying to kick start the thing. Eventually looked at the kill switch, either me or a smart ass had flicked it off.
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Agree that the battery should still be checked, ideally load tested. An engine turning over is not a sure sign of a good battery. A battery has to turn the engine over AND send juice for a spark or two. That condition will often start right when you take your finger off the start button as the starter ceases to draw current. Or it's some other thing altogether. I'd definitely check that code.
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post #6 of 10 Old 02-21-2015, 03:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up Yep, electrical connection was problem

Problem solved! Wingnut, you were right. Problem was electrical connection to fuel pump.
I had pulled the tank and airbox to perform a full service (spark plugs, air filter, etc.) a few weeks back. Apparently when the 3-pin connector for the fuel pump was clipped back together, one of the male pins got pushed out of the connector housing just enough that an intermittant connection was occuring. It was the black/ground wire.
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.
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Mr. Wingnut; For future referrence, how do I trigger the dealer mode to read FI trouble codes?
Thanks for your help!
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how do I trigger the dealer mode to read FI trouble codes?
FAQ: Dealer Mode & FI Error Codes

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I'm glad you've got it sorted out.
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Slightly off topic, but when I read wingnut11s comment about the kill switch it reminded me of a situation years ago. Came back to my bike, Triumph 750 and spent 15 minutes trying to kick start the thing. Eventually looked at the kill switch, either me or a smart ass had flicked it off.
Felt like a goose.
Could be worse. Once, I couldn't figure out why my bike wouldn't start after fueling up at a gas station. Not with the clutch pulled in, not in neutral - nothing, not even the engine trying to turn over, though the headlights and instruments were all lit up. Flicked the kill switch off and on a bunch of times, nope, that wasn't it.

...I had my kickstand down. Usually I don't put it down to gas up, since I can refuel while seated on the bike; this time I had kicked it down while thinking of dismounting to check something in my luggage, then decided not to, never got off the bike and forgot I'd put the stand down.

On the reverse side of that coin, I once saw another rider - a new rider - in the same predicament at a gas station, whose bike "just wouldn't start all of a sudden". I looked over and saw the kickstand down. So I told him to do a magic incantation, to chant "Honda Yamaha Harley Fun, Let My Motorcycle Run" while walking in a circle around his motorcycle counterclockwise, and then to try again. He looked at me like I was insane, but I insisted, and it worked
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