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post #1 of 13 Old 05-06-2014, 04:41 PM Thread Starter
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Issues starting this week, electrical..

This has happened 3 times this week so far. And it's only Tuesday. I always use the kill switch to stop the bike. I always leave the bike in gear. This is how i start the bike:

Hop on bike, kick up kick-stand
kick bike into neutral
turn key
flip kill switch
hit starter button
usually, it will start. i always do it this way.

but 3 times this week, i will go to start and it won't. it doesn't prime. i check kill switch, it's on. i check to see it's in neutral. green light on, but gear indicator is blank. wait about 10 seconds and "N" appears, bike primes, and i'm on my way..

What does this sound like? it's weird that its giving me a green light, but no "N". maybe a kill switch going south?

i can guarantee to you that i'm not forgetting to do something in my sequence. because if i sit there and don't do anything it will come on. it's not an "oh duh" moment. i've had plenty of those.

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post #2 of 13 Old 05-06-2014, 05:00 PM
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Clutch lever switch?
Thats what it was on mine. Try jiggling the lever with the starter button pushed.
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Did you have a CHEC before the neutral light appeared? I'm thinking you may have worn out the kill switch.

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An old Harley guy told me once to never use kill switch to shut the bike down because they wear out fast. I just turn the ignition off and done. Kill switch is for killing the bike in ER situations.
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MSF training says to use it every time. I guess that could be my issue. I think the "check" is on as well so that was my next thought. If the bike is in neutral, I dont think that the clutch switch comes into play.

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The clutch switch has to be closed for the engine to start, neutral or not. It will not throw a CHEC though. That's almost always a kill switch or side stand switch issue.

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The contacts on a kill switch or a kick-stand switch will burn quite easily with the power running through them but they are both cheaper and easier to replace than a ignition switch.

Because of the spring loading on the ignition switch that is my preferred way of killing my bikes.

if the kill switch is bad you should get a neutral light when the bike is in neutral and the ignition is on but the pump will not run so it is looking like your kill switch, the clutch switch will alow the pump to run but the starter will not
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With my new Yamaha the kill switch is also the start button so you can't forget it.

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The reason MSF teaches to use the kill switch is to make it the instinctive place to go if the bike is dropped. There is no other reason to ever touch it. The Strom has a tip over switch so the only time the kill switch needs to be found is if the TOS malfunctions. I once hot wired a bike because the tank bag hit the kill switch. With this start sequence:

Hop on bike, kick up kick-stand
kick bike into neutral
turn key
flip kill switch
hit starter button

The kill switch is thrown twice while power is running through it on every shut down and start up, shortening its life. If you must use the kill switch to turn the bike off, at least turn the kill switch on before turning on the ignition.

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I don't see the point in turning the bike off with the kill switch. You still have to turn off the ignition. Why make things complicated by using two switches.
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Like i said, MSF course was adamant about doing so every time. I will be stopping this practice immediately. DOH!!! Oh well, shit happens. I'll probably be purchasing a new kill switch in the future!

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