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post #1 of 10 Old 05-04-2014, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
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Worst instructions ever...and now I'm stuck

Hopefully someone here can help me out. This weekend I received my Givi E55 and brake light kit. Installing the case itself was a breeze. Hooking up the brake lights- meh, not so much. I'm not an electrician, nor am I particularly savvy with wires.

Problem 1: wires on my 2013 Dl650 are different than those listed online. I have black w/ white stipe. Grey. And teal. figured those out though I think.

Problem 2: the provided givi connector plug (nomenclature?) isn't quite tall enough to reach the terminals on the bottom on the case if I install the from the underside. So I installed it on top which makes no sense from an aesthetics or a wire protection standpoint (See image) but still, no go on the brake lights in the case. Has anybody on here troubleshot this? I can't be the only one but I read dozens of posts about these cases now and the best thing I saw so far was that someone solved the problem with a washer- or planned to. Any advice?

And as a warning to anyone looking at givi cases- the case is great. It seems like very high quality. But the instructions are terrible.
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There is a white wire with a black stripe back there. It is the brake light hot wire. That teal wire must be the light green right turn signal wire.

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Hopefully someone here can help me out. This weekend I received my Givi E55 and brake light kit. Installing the case itself was a breeze. Hooking up the brake lights- meh, not so much. I'm not an electrician, nor am I particularly savvy with wires.

Problem 1: wires on my 2013 Dl650 are different than those listed online. I have black w/ white stipe. Grey. And teal. figured those out though I think.

Problem 2: the provided givi connector plug (nomenclature?) isn't quite tall enough to reach the terminals on the bottom on the case if I install the from the underside. So I installed it on top which makes no sense from an aesthetics or a wire protection standpoint (See image) but still, no go on the brake lights in the case. Has anybody on here troubleshot this? I can't be the only one but I read dozens of posts about these cases now and the best thing I saw so far was that someone solved the problem with a washer- or planned to. Any advice?

And as a warning to anyone looking at givi cases- the case is great. It seems like very high quality. But the instructions are terrible.
Going to take a stab at this based on the wiring diagram I have from the Haynes manual...haven't looked at the bike. Just guessing at the colors based on what it looks like on the diagram, and a couple of the wires are a different color on either side of the connector.

Right turn - light green. Brake - white on the bulb side and white w/black stripe on the bike side. Tail - white w/black strip on bulb side and brown on bike side. Left turn - black (maybe with a brown stripe?). Ground - Black w/white stripe.

It does seem odd that the cable to the connector would be routed like that. Besides the aesthetics, it could pinch and short the wiring.

I couldn't bring myself to cut into the brand new harness on my bike, so I got connectors and wiring from Eastern Beaver, it's just plug n play. They have a whole range of electrical items for the V-Strom.

If you need more detail about the wire colors, I could look at my wiring tomorrow afternoon.

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Sorry, GW answered the question

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and no, the wire should not be routed that way. Besides, it looks like the contacts are sticking up too high the way you have it.

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One hopes Givi has greatly improved their connector since I tried it years ago. Eventually (quickly, just to be clear), the contacts would stick, and you never knew if the lights were working or not. Been using admore ever since.

Yes, the wires should be underneath.

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So this morning with better light and less rum in me I went back and double checked my work with a voltmeter (had to wait until this morning to buy it). My connections are good and there is power running to the givi case when the tail light on the bike is on. HOWEVER- when I apply the brake the power to the case drops to zero. I'm no electrician but I bet that's not right. Does this give any of you any clues as to what I've done wrong?

Thanks for the earlier comments, they all helped me sort of get my bearings with what I've done so far. I also have since found the vstrom riders international site and their wiring 101 section which was immensely helpful.
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I'll bet you confused a white wire with a black stripe with a black wire with a white stripe.

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Could have. I have been assuming that the ground would be the one that is coming out of the side rather than into the rear of the bulb where the contacts would be. I also assumed that a white wire with a black stripe would be predominantly white with less black. The opposite being true for a black wire with a white stripe.

With the setup as I currently have it, I have tail lights until I hit he brake and then I have no light (except the bikes tail and brake lights which operate normally.)
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All that is correct. The black/white wire on the side is ground. The white/black wire in back is the brake light hot. The gray wire next to it (that is nearly white in the picture) is the tail light hot. Does the Admore unit have two wires or three? If it has two wires and you connected them to the white/black and gray, that's your problem.

A two wire Admore can be wired as a running light or a brake light, not both. Connect one wire to ground (black/white). For an always on Admore, connect the other wire to gray. For a brake light Admore, connect the non ground wire to white/black.

The way you have it now, the light is getting power through the gray wire and finding ground by passing through the filament in the brake light bulb. When you hit the brake, both wires to the Admore go positive so no current can flow. BTW, those blue Scotch Lock connectors are crap. The steel bridge piece loves to corrode or break wires. Find some Posi-Taps. Amazon.com: Posi-tap Connector, 16-18 Gauge Wire: Automotive is one source.

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