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post #1 of 16 Old 04-27-2014, 05:48 PM Thread Starter
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(*&)(*&()& damn rear axle nut!!!!

So I put a new tire on my 2013 strom earlier this week. Today I checked and the wheel wasn't square. So, I loosen up the axle bolt and make the adjustments, now that damn nut won't tighten or loosen up. No, it isn't cross threaded. I didn't even remove it all of the way. I'll turn about 1/2 turn each way and then lock up.
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post #2 of 16 Old 04-27-2014, 05:53 PM
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just in case...

I know it is dumb, but just in case: you are holding the left side bolt while unscrewing/screwing the right side nut, right?
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Sounds like Galling

Sounds like a galled nut.
See this discussion.
Galled Nut Removal - Bolting Emergency? Call 800-367-4986

I would start by using a penetrating oil like Blaster. Wait for several minutes to allow it to soak in. Then give the nut some firm taps with a ball pein hammer but don't round the head of the nut.

Use a quality socket and a breaker bar for leverage. It should come loose. If not, get a BFH (thats big ****ing hammer) and tap on the breaker bar. If it still won't come loose well I would heat just the nut and repeat step three but you might want to break down and take it to a mechanic.
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https://www.stromtrooper.com/general-...ad-galled.html

It's a sticky in the general forum for a reason. It's too common on all models.

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Thanks for the replies and I apologize for the knee-jerk post. I was just sooo miffed I didn't have the patience to search. You know, the ten minute job that turns into a 2 hour ordeal...

Well I managed to get the nut off. Luckily one of my co-workers is a machinist-genius. Maybe he can salvage the axle. If so I'm going to ask him to drill a hole through it and I'm going back to the old castle nut-cotter key method.

Time for a friggen beer or three!!

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Castle nuts gall too. Use the anti-seize and 58lb-ft method. There have been zero reports of problems with it.

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Tighten less, life is good.

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Tighten less, life is good.
+1. Personally, I only own a Q wrench that goes to 50 ft lbs. I lube with moly anti-seize, crank it to 45 and go to the next hole. It has worked on many bikes with no problems.

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I read the entire galling thread. It just brought to mind more questions:

Is the galling something that happens as you remove the nut or something that has already happened?

Is there something you can do before removing (like applying penetrating oil) to lessen the chances of it happening?

Does it usually happen the first time the nut is removed, or after it has been removed and re-torqued at least once?

Is it more likely to happen by delaying loosening it? For example, should I loosen mine now (when it is practically new) and apply anti-seize as opposed to waiting until I need to adjust the chain or replace a tire?

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Galling is cold pressure welding. It happens over an extended period of time after the nut is tightened. The shorter the amount of time it has been installed the more likely it is to be removable without damage. Take it off and apply anti seize. Once it is galled, it has to be broken free.

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