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post #1 of 21 Old 09-01-2013, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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Ricor Intiminators - Fork Fluid

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I just bought a set of Intiminators for my 2012+ DL650A. I've been thinking about what fork fluid to use with them. The 5w Amsoil without changing the rebound hole diameter, i.e., welding up the current and drilling a 1.5mm hole is not going to be as controlled as with the stock oil.

I'm thinking of going with Redline instead of Amsoil and am wondering if anyone else has tried it or similar?

AMSOIL Viscosity @40C = 15.7 with viscosity index = 210

Red Line Oil Light Weight Viscosity @40C = 18.4 with viscosity index = 407
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The slightly higher viscosity of the Red Line will give you a bit more damping.

The viscosity index is the relative change in viscosity between 40°C and 100°C. In practical terms, the Red Line will thicken less in the winter cold and thin less on a hard ride on a hot summer day.

Either brand will give excellent service. I expect the Amsoil to stay within spec for a long time, and the Red Line to keep within spec longer...at its cost it better.

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With my personal experience I have found the rebound to be less of a problem than the compression dampening. I'm using the Amsoil 5w. From what I have read the Ricor shim stack is designed for the Amsoil 5w. Just something for you to think about and muddy the water more. What I am discovering is there is no one solution for all riders. You will need to start somewhere and go from there.





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Hi,

I just bought a set of Intiminators for my 2012+ DL650A. I've been thinking about what fork fluid to use with them. The 5w Amsoil without changing the rebound hole diameter, i.e., welding up the current and drilling a 1.5mm hole is not going to be as controlled as with the stock oil.

I'm thinking of going with Redline instead of Amsoil and am wondering if anyone else has tried it or similar?

AMSOIL Viscosity @40C = 15.7 with viscosity index = 210

Red Line Oil Light Weight Viscosity @40C = 18.4 with viscosity index = 407
( 5W yellow )

My experience is that Castrol and Motul 5W are a bit heavy for my 90kgs. They work, but there's a bit much damping. If anything, you may want to go a bit lighter.

There's no need at all to mess around with the existing dampers - what you do need to do is install them, put something near the recommended oil in, then RIDE the damned bike for a few weeks before you start playing.

The bike will feel different, it's unlikely to feel right *just because it feels different* and there's also some 'sticktion' until the Intiminators bed in.

I found that after a couple of weeks, and particularly the second weekend when I rode a steep winding road downhill, breaking extremely hard and extremely late into corners that whoever designed those things was better at suspension setup than I was.

Apart from needing to change the oil now and then and a little harshness (less than that caused by fitting K60 tyres) I found that they 'just work' (tm).

Obviously, your experience may be different, but I'd still say that messing around until you've ridden with them for a while (and in particular, you need to push the bike to near what it's previous limits were) is a total waste of time and effort.


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The slightly higher viscosity of the Red Line will give you a bit more damping.
Yep, today's 425 mile highway run was fine when I started out, but by the time I got home, the 5w oil was useless at 87 degrees F air temp. It felt like I had no shocks at all up front.

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Thanks guys,

I live in North Carolina and want an oil that's not going to break down in the heat. If it not good, I'll go to the Amsoil or a lighter Red Line. The Red Line is easier, cheaper and gets better reviews for other bike forks than the not so well established use of the Amsoil from what I've determined from many searches.

Still interested in anyone that has used Red Line fluid with the Intiminators.

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Ricor Intiminators - Fork Fluid

I've got some Amsoil and Racetech fork oil for sale.

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Race Tech Ultra Slick fork fluid. Two liters. USF-05, 5 weight. Typically used with fork valve installs like Intiminators that require thin fluids. $50 shipped in conus.

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I hear more people say the Intiminator ride is a bit harsher than they expected over mild bumps, although they are amazed at how nice they are over harsh bumps. After a while, most don't complain about the slightly harsher mild bump characteristics.

IF that is the case, the heavier oil is NOT the way I'd go.

I've ridden Intiminators in several different bikes, including my 2013 Adventure. I like the 5 weight AmSoil just fine...and that included riding in 110 degree temps in Las Vegas. Of course, everyone's riding conditions can vary....you'll have to determine for yourself what works best for your weight and conditions.
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I live in North Carolina and want an oil that's not going to break down in the heat.
North Carolina isn't that hot, is it? 80's & 90? Humidity makes it uncomfortable, but that's for flesh, not machines.

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VI is generally of less importance for forks than for shocks in average road riding condition. I did manage to get the oil working very warm a couple times to the extent you can feel the degradation but that was going crazy over some very bumpy roads.

But if you can find some oil with higher VI, for about the same money - why not!

I agree ride a bit before making changes - takes a little bit of time to get use to the setting and make a true analysis.

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