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post #1 of 15 Old 07-22-2019, 07:56 PM Thread Starter
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Rotopax

Just bought two-one gal Rotopax ( used from eBay) and I’d like to hear some of the innovative mounting options you all have already done for them on your bike. Pictures please



And as a side topic. What handlebars are y’all using and the pros and cons of them
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post #2 of 15 Old 07-22-2019, 08:03 PM
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If you are running panniers and a top case you are very limited where you can put them. On the back or front (if not hauling a pillion) of the panniers is about you only symmetrical option.

I bought a 1 gallon Rotopax and ended up putting it on the shelf in the garage because the Pelican 1550's I had on my DL650 were not good candidates to mount the Rotopax to.
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I have a Kolpin and mounted it to the top of my top box. Similar mount to the Roto but much lighter plastic material. My top box is a Hardigg military case and quite stout. I used a large aluminum plate on the inside to provide load dispersion. I was able to fashion a locking pin to make stealing the Kolpin difficult when the top box is locked.
I think the Rotopax is the better fuel cell except for the weighty mount. It has the better locking ability too. Unless there are some sort of skeleton keys available.
Over the years I've found there are a limited number of keys for locks.
Haven't needed it yet but I might someday if i get Adventurous.
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can you get it to fit opposite the muffler? like where some people mount a tool tube.
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MX14, you can mount the gas cans to the Pelicans if you use a decent sized metal doubler like I did with the Hardigg. Just gotta spread out the stresses.
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Different bike (2007 Vee) but same problem. It's very frustrating. Every Rotopax solution I've seen so far either requires giving up a case, or is not compatible with my existing luggage setup.

I have one Rotopax fuel jug, of the 1.75 gallon size. I have nowhere to mount the quick-detach handle, so don't use one.

The best I've been able to do is, use Rok straps to secure the can to my Givi side case rack in place of one of my E36 side cases. Leaving a side case home is OK for day trips, but a non-starter for actual travel.

Side-rack mounting is one reason I bought the 1.75 gallon jug. That size has an extra handle on the bottom, through which one may loop rope or straps to secure the can without a proper Rotopax mount.

My top case never comes off, so using a Rotopax mount there is out too.

There does exist an L-bracket that could allow carrying one Rotopax can vertically, in front of my top case. However, it's not compatible with my top case adapter (Happy Trail Monokey adapter plate, similar to this one: https://www.happy-trail.com/givi-su-rack-adapter.html). No way to connect them.

I don't need the gas can for local trips, and have no place to mount it on real long-distance rides. So mostly, it sits in my garage.

FWIW: What everyone says about the "green" spouts included with the gas cans is true. They're trash. Leaky and dangerous. It's impossible to NOT spill gas with them, way too easy to splash gas where you didn't want it, and in general the "green" spouts are a pain in the ass. Retrofit "water" pour spouts at the earliest opportunity.
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MX14, you can mount the gas cans to the Pelicans if you use a decent sized metal doubler like I did with the Hardigg. Just gotta spread out the stresses.

I have alum backer plates where needed. The rotopax just dpon't work well on pelican 1550.


1st you have to space out the mount to miss the lid of the pannier

2nd the rotopax is wider than the pannier

3rd the rotopax cannot be centered because of the lid

I'm not saying its impossible it just cannot be done to my satisfaction.
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...FWIW: What everyone says about the "green" spouts included with the gas cans is true. They're trash. Leaky and dangerous. It's impossible to NOT spill gas with them, way too easy to splash gas where you didn't want it, and in general the "green" spouts are a pain in the ass. Retrofit "water" pour spouts at the earliest opportunity.

I carry a Rotopax on a top plate, no top box.

I don't have a problem with the EPA spout. Works well if you understand how to use it. No gas gets spilled because it won't pour unless the tab is depressed. It does pour slower than a regular spout though.

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I understand how to operate the "EPA" spout. I just think it is a bad design, and an unnecessary complication. I don't like it and won't use it.

My main problem with it is that you have to keep pressure on it constantly, precariously perched on the edge of the fill hole. The contact area is tiny, it's smooth plastic, and it's very easy for it to slip. On top of that, it pours more slowly. None of that is desirable, especially with the larger jug.

The EPA spout was a hassle I didn't need, when I was actually refueling out in the middle of nowhere. So it had to go.
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I understand how to operate the "EPA" spout. I just think it is a bad design, and an unnecessary complication. I don't like it and won't use it.

My main problem with it is that you have to keep pressure on it constantly, precariously perched on the edge of the fill hole. The contact area is tiny, it's smooth plastic, and it's very easy for it to slip. On top of that, it pours more slowly. None of that is desirable, especially with the larger jug.

The EPA spout was a hassle I didn't need, when I was actually refueling out in the middle of nowhere. So it had to go.
i agree its a bad design. Yes it pours slow, but thats not my problem. My last can i bought that had one i went through 2 broken spouts before i said im not buying another, then proceeded to buy an evil non epa spout that fit it.
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