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post #1 of 21 Old 04-05-2019, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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Lightbulb put dl1000 hydraulic clutch on dl650?

I am an old person running around on a dl650 and in town I do an awful lot of clutching and shifting. nothing on this old person works as good as it used to, including hands. I have had bikes with a hydraulic clutch before and they are much easier to operate than the old cable operated clutch.
on ebay I ran across a complete dl1000 clutch operating set up, master cylinder, hyd line, and slave cylinder. It looks like it would work, might have to slot the holes. Has anyone done this transplant? If it will work it would be great for me.
I think I should make it clear that what I am after is not the dl1000 clutch pack itself , but the hydraulic actuation mechanism. Magura makes a hydraulic conversion for dirt bikes for $300 but it uses a hydraulic cylinder to operate the conventional mechanical clutch release mechanism and that has a lot more inefficiency than a straight hydraulic mechanism

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I do not think a DL1000 clutch is going to do you any good. I would be looking into either a dirt bike type conversion for changing cable clutches to hydraulic or possibly using softer clutch springs (if you are not a heavy throttle user).
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I have seen a hydraulic clutch conversion kit for the Wee but it costs about $300. I can't remember the brand off the top of my head. I'll see if I can find it a little later if you're interested at that price.

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If you plan on keeping the bike a Rekluse auto clutch could be worth the investment.
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I would think that mounting the slave cylinder would be a very challenging engineering achievement.
Ensure that the clutch cable adjustment, the clutch adjustment, and the clutch cable and lever action are as good as they can be.

Then consider this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Moose-ATV-D...-/163334093720
Or this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1200...808616920.html

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Magura is the hydraulic clutch kit that I saw but it looks like you're already aware of them.

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My 650 cable clutch is easier than either of the 1000 Stroms I owned, so hearing you are wanting to move to hydraulic really surprises me.

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It is not the "hydraulic vs cable" that makes a DL 1000 different in pull. If a DL 1000 had a cable clutch, it would probably be even harder to pull and go through cables fairly often. DL 1000's have extremely strong pressure plate springs.

DL 650's have a nice clutch lever pull when everything is right.

I have tried some off the wall stuff, but the work to try to mount a DL 1000 slave cylinder to the 650 is something I would never try.

Get an EFM auto clutch, or a Rekluse auto clutch if lever pull is a problem.
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Some real good thoughts here. thanks much guys. The reason that it occurred to me to put a dl1000 slave cylinder on my 650 is that I ran across one on ebay a couple days after moving the 650 clutch actuator out of the way to put a 16 t front sprocket on. ( love the 16 ) the image of the 650 actuator is fresh in my mind and it sure looks like the dl1000 would bolt right in and do the job. an advantage to using the 1000 master cylinder/lever assy is that a mirror mounts on it which the magura doesn't have.
I occasionally run across a kawi zrx1200 that I used to own. the hyd clutch lever on that 1200 is easier for me to pull in than the clutch lever on my dl650. hydraulic is a good thing. Auto clutches are the wave of the future I'm sure.
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"Bolt right in" is the key. There are no bosses cast into the 650 engine cases to mount the DL 1000 slave cylinder to! That would be a major project involving aluminum welding to make happen. Welding that would probably include engine disassembly to do it right.

IF you could get the DL 1000 slave cylinder mounted, then a bit of fabrication would allow the pushrod to work without much effort.
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