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Aluminum crush washers for oil cooler - can I use a generic M14 aluminum gasket?

Hi fellow troopers,

I left work the other day to find oil spots underneath my bike, a drop of oil on the engine-side lower oil line bolt, and a fair amount of scum on the underside of the engine.

I replaced the oil cooler yesterday figuring it was all upstream. I'd known it was leaking and thought it had just gotten worse. Instead, it turns out it was also leaking further down, appearently from partway down the lower oil line (PN 16460-17G00).

I think I need to replace at least the lower oil line. There are a few on ebay for the SV that share the same part number and should arrive by Friday. However, the crush washers ("GASKET (14X20X1.5)" PN 09168-14015) either come from Japan or I will have to order them from bikbandit or partzilla which have been horribly slow in the past with poor communication. I do see one seller advertising "Engine Aluminum Drain Plug Gasket for M14 Geo Kia Mazda Pontiac Buick Dorman" which cross-references the suzuki part number. The dimensions it shows equate to 14.12mmX20.0152X1.41mm. Would you bet on this?

If they aren't a fit, do you think I could get away reusing the current gaskets until the proper ones come in? I am okay trading a moderate leak for a small leak if it means I can get to work.
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I used my washers multiable times on my 650. No leaks.
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I used my washers multiable times on my 650. No leaks.
Same here.
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Would you bet on this?

If they aren't a fit, do you think I could get away reusing the current gaskets until the proper ones come in?
I'd bet on it. Or if you reuse, dress it on some fine sandpaper. I always swap oil drain plug washers with either brass or aluminum ones off a doorman rack.

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Good to know, thanks! New hoses are on the way. Hopefully I can get this heap back on the road before temps really get low.
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These crush washers are available in bulk from Crest Industries, Wurth, and many others. Also available at most all auto parts stores.

I replace crush washers each and every time a drain plug or junction comes apart. These are termed one-time parts.
Inexpensive, you already have it apart, and Ive personally witnessed the aftermath of ALLEGED MECHANICS trying to save 4 minutes or a quarter(if that much) leading to an oil-related failure. It ain't pretty. I also use a torque wrench on drain plugs. I've made a fair amount of $$ replacing stripped oil pans or engines these same ALLEGED MECHANICS worked on prior to me working on it.

These gaskets are also available in copper, which is what I prefer. I got them from my former auto dealership employer in a box of 100.

If you can't afford the time or money to replace a simple sealing washer when doing a job....well, you know the rest.
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Agree with MAZ4ME.

In a pinch, on the road, in an emergency, I would have no problem with reusing a crush washer. But for planned maintenance, in my garage with all the tools and spares at hand, and having to order/buy stuff (like oil) in advance anyway, it simply does not make sense NOT to replace a crush washer.

Having said that, the OP was not talking about the industry-standard M14 crush washer for the oil drain plug, but a crush washer that's used somewhere else (in the lower oil line, wherever that is). And that crush washer is made from unobtainium or something and apparently hard to source. I don't know if it's the same size as a regular M14 crush washer or something weird. My approach would be to see if a regular M14 crush washer would work too and use that.

If not, then I fully agree with the OP proposal: Reuse the current washer until the proper sized new washers come in. Indeed, the worst that can happen is a small oil leak, and you are vigilant enough to notice that in time.
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A crush washer is a crush washer is a...you get the idea. Doesnt matter if it's for an oil drain plug, a oil cooler hose connection at either the engine or cooler, or a brake line at a master cylinder or caliper.
Look in any motorcycle or car service manual-- where there's a sealing ring there's an arrow with an asterisk or an "R" signifying "REPLACE".
If you choose not to and dont have a problem, more power to you. What have you really saved?
It's not like these sealing rings are made of unobtanium or are prohibitively expensive.
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To replace or not replace is quite a topic, for me I don't recall EVER replacing an oil plug crush washer on any bike I have owned......zero leaks/drips/issues....do as you must.
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If you choose not to and dont have a problem, more power to you. What have you really saved?
In this case, I'll save a week's lead time that I would have spent waiting on the part, and be able to get to work. This is more important than losing a few drops of oil, and I'll replace those holy rings the next time I change the oil. I always use a torque wrench where it matters.

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To replace or not replace is quite a topic, for me I don't recall EVER replacing an oil plug crush washer on any bike I have owned......zero leaks/drips/issues....do as you must.
118,000 miles and counting, one drain plug gasket.
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