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post #1 of 49 Old 07-03-2018, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
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2005 650 hard shifting, intermittent

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I've had my 2005 650 for maybe 3 years now. Bought it with 39,000 miles, now over 60k. I've read in the reviews how slick shifting the tranny is, but ever since I've owned mine the shifting is intermittently clunky and stiff. I'd say over half the time I have to pull significantly harder on the lever than is normal, finding neutral is difficult, etc. Sometimes it does indeed shift very easily and smooth. It's a night and day difference.

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- Have run both Rotella T 15w40 and Mobile 1 10w40, no difference
- I don't notice any difference in this based on the mileage on the oil change
- The clutch is smooth, normal, consistent in its action, and adjusted properly
- I thoroughly cleaned and greased the shifter pivot and linkage joints, no difference

I did a search and didn't come up with this exact issue. Has anybody else run across this? Thanks!

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post #2 of 49 Old 07-04-2018, 06:08 AM
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Sometimes it is just a matter of adjustment, not only clutch but chain as well. Some threads to read: https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-d...my-clutch.html, https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-d...-actuator.html, https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-d...top-light.html and https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-d...djustment.html.
Hope you are able to solve your gear shifting problem.
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Hello Strommers!

I've had my 2005 650 for maybe 3 years now. Bought it with 39,000 miles, now over 60k. I've read in the reviews how slick shifting the tranny is, but ever since I've owned mine the shifting is intermittently clunky and stiff. I'd say over half the time I have to pull significantly harder on the lever than is normal, finding neutral is difficult, etc. Sometimes it does indeed shift very easily and smooth. It's a night and day difference.

Some facts:
- Have run both Rotella T 15w40 and Mobile 1 10w40, no difference
- I don't notice any difference in this based on the mileage on the oil change
- The clutch is smooth, normal, consistent in its action, and adjusted properly
- I thoroughly cleaned and greased the shifter pivot and linkage joints, no difference

I did a search and didn't come up with this exact issue. Has anybody else run across this? Thanks!

Jeremy
I had this issue. Do this:

https://www.stromtrooper.com/4718337-post37.html
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Thanks fellas, good stuff to check. The clutch adjustment at the sprocket is particularly compelling, and I'm about to install a chain and sprockets anyway.

Do you guys understand how the chain slack affects this?
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Make sure the pivot at the handlebar lever and the little socket that holds the cable nipple are lubed well.

DO NOT LUBE THE TEFLON COATED CABLE!
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Do you guys understand how the chain slack affects this?
I wouldn't suggest it if it would not be of any help. On it own, it will not do much but in doing a clutch adjustment only you may find that the problem is not resolved. Try the chain adjustment as well and let me know what you think. Of course once you have checked for clutch cable binding.
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Ok. Does the chain's contribution tend to be from being too loose or too tight?
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A chain that is too loose can contribute to driveline lash, making it more difficult to be smooth when releasing the clutch after shifting. You risk accelerating wear on the countershaft bearings when road irregularities cause your suspension to flex if your chain is tighter than specified in your owner’s manual.
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post #9 of 49 Old 07-12-2018, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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Folks,

Update: I adjusted the clutch and tightened the chain just a bit. (The chain really needs to be replaced, hopefully this Saturday.) But I think the shifting is a little better. Interesting, I found the adjustment at the engine to be right at 1/4 turn per spec, I adjusted to a "tight" quarter turn, maybe 3/16 of a turn Then adjusted the bar cable end adjuster per the manual, ~1/2" free play.

I still find it interesting that this bike, after all the reviews of how slick the tranny is, can be so persnickity about tiny little adjustments.

Does the chain tension's contribution to notchy shifting tend to be from being too loose or too tight?

OH, and where can I find the tool (rods) for aligning the rear wheel?

Thanks again, Jeremy

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Visual aid on chain tension, google "youtube + v-strom chain adjustment" or follow instructions in your user manual.
As posted before, too much slack can be dangerous and too little slack can cause leaks or chain to snap.
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