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post #141 of 174 Old 03-06-2019, 07:49 PM
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Don't know why you are making it so complicated.

You don't need to "clean" the chain. It does nothing useful and in some cases could do harm.

With a centerstand it takes me between 10 and 20 seconds total time to lube the chain. I do it when I stop for gas (and after every ride in the rain.) It is so easy and for me works so well I can't see why people are overthinking it.

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So I got to thinking and just for giggles I did some (very) rough calculations.
Based on an mileage estimate of your various DL’s of 312,000 miles and say lubing the chain every 200 miles, that leaves you at 1,561 times lubed. Figuring about 1 minute per lube, which includes lube time, putting on centerstand, getting the lube out and process reversal would be 1561 minutes or roughly 26 hours. Seems like a lot, but....
Based on a low estimate of replacing your chains every 40k miles would equate to 7.8 chains. Figuring chain and sprockets are $200 us puts the cost at $1560 us and about 2 hours per replacement would be 15.6 hours
As many here lube less often, say every 400 or 600 miles allows them 13 hours or 8.6 hours lubing time respectively based on your mileage. However, the majority of them are getting but 20k miles before replacement would be changing chain and sprockets 15.6 times. At $200 and 2hours per, leaves them at $3120 and 31.2 hours replacement time.
Based on these (very) rough calculations and considering the lube cost difference minimal, in 312,000 miles you’ve spent roughly 41.6 hours in lubing and chain/sprocket replacement time at a cost of $1560 US
One who lubes every 600 miles but replaces the chain/sprockets every 20K miles would have spent 39.9 hours on lube and replacement time At a cost of $3120 US.

In essence you’ve spent an additional 1.7 hours and saved $1560 US. Not a bad payback.

And yes, I adopted your lubing intervals a while back and am currently at 35K on my chain.
This is not imperial data, don’t quote me, your calculations will vary, someone with more time and accurate data will spend needless time to better calculate what few care about.
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Nice calculation!

Only thing wrong in your calculations is it literally takes me 10 to 20 seconds to lube the chain.

It goes like this:

-stop in neutral and put bike on centerstand
-remove left glove
-get can of lube from right side of tank bag
-get down on right knee (usually)
-spin rear wheel with left (gloved hand)
-spray lube on chain with right (unloved) hand.
-stand up and put lube back in tank bag
<done>
Then gas bike.

It really doesn't need a lot of lube or much time to do it.

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Nice calculation!

Only thing wrong in your calculations is it literally takes me 10 to 20 seconds to lube the chain.

It goes like this:

-stop in neutral and put bike on centerstand
-remove left glove
-get can of lube from right side of tank bag
-get down on right knee (usually)
-spin rear wheel with left (gloved hand)
-spray lube on chain with right (unloved) hand.
-stand up and put lube back in tank bag
<done>
Then gas bike.

It really doesn't need a lot of lube or much time to do it.

..Tom
I'm sure you've mentioned it many times, but what lube do you use?
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I'm sure you've mentioned it many times, but what lube do you use?
Wurth HHS2000. Called Wurth HHS 2K in the USA. I like it and since my work uses it I get it very inexpensively.

The product is good but I think the most important thing is lubing it often. I noticed in my wife's Triumph Tiger Manual that triumph recommends following my lube schedule:



I am usually filling up around 300km / 200 miles and since it only take 10 to 20 seconds total time to lube the chain I do it when I fill up.

(It also mentions cleaning which in my experience does nothing for chain life.)

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Nice calculation!

Only thing wrong in your calculations is it literally takes me 10 to 20 seconds to lube the chain.

It goes like this:

-stop in neutral and put bike on centerstand
-remove left glove
-get can of lube from right side of tank bag
-get down on right knee (usually)
-spin rear wheel with left (gloved hand)
-spray lube on chain with right (unloved) hand.
-stand up and put lube back in tank bag
<done>
Then gas bike.

It really doesn't need a lot of lube or much time to do it.

..Tom
Well that puts you ahead even further!
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Well that puts you ahead even further!
Just to be clear my right hand is loved as much as my left!

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I hear you! I have only managed 1,743 km / 1083 miles since January 1.

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wow you are only 1723km ahead of me lol. I got out one day briefly but that's it. My driveway is fairly long and has been a skating rink so the days where I think I could get out for an hour i'm nervous of the driveway and just stay home!
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V-Tom and Big B, how often do you have to adjust your chain given the success with the Wurth and Tutoro respectively?

To me personally my biggest want is extending chain adjustment intervals. I dont mind lubing the chain, but adjusting the chain is just another PITA item i dont want to do.

I told myself i wouldnt buy another chain driven bike, so last summer i went out and bought another chain driven bike.

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wow you are only 1723km ahead of me lol. I got out one day briefly but that's it. My driveway is fairly long and has been a skating rink so the days where I think I could get out for an hour i'm nervous of the driveway and just stay home!
Yeah I have learned not to ride on ice. My bike falls over! So I am actually pretty conservative as to when I ride, especially for commuting. I didn't commute today as we got a bit of flurries overnight and my local roads were icy. Too bad as it is nice and sunny and dry at work and a balmy -9°c / 16°f.

Maybe tomorrow!

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V-Tom and Big B, how often do you have to adjust your chain given the success with the Wurth and Tutoro respectively?

To me personally my biggest want is extending chain adjustment intervals. I dont mind lubing the chain, but adjusting the chain is just another PITA item i dont want to do.

I told myself i wouldnt buy another chain driven bike, so last summer i went out and bought another chain driven bike.
I honestly don't remember the last time I adjusted my chain or that it was needed? I practically forget I have a chain driven bike now, which means I haven't given much thought to switching to a shaft driven bike next. Tutoro's initial setting is too high on my unit, but I cannot speak for others as to how their's works. I keep mine set at half or 3/4 turn pretty much all the time, anything more than that and it's a bit too much oil.
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