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post #1 of 15 Old 07-20-2019, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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does the first to second shift get better with miles?

does it? I have 900 miles on the bike with non syn castrol motorcycle specific 10-40 and first to second is not smooth at all. preloaded shifter, its OK. Will this get better with time? When I go to syn will it help?
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post #2 of 15 Old 07-21-2019, 12:29 AM
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Mine (650j seems pretty notchy at times. I dont remember how it was new. When my oil gets dirty, or with yamalube it seems notchier then with fresh or other oils. Since you are in Florida, you might try 20w50 Suzuki oil at your 4,000 mile oil change.
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Different oils seem to effect shifting differently. Not always synthetic, but the longer its in the more shifting get rougher.
Also, yes, a new engine is stiffer and improves with miles.
PS- I use 15-50 Mobil 1 since the 600 mile change.

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post #4 of 15 Old 07-21-2019, 01:37 AM
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I have read that some have that trouble, my 14' has been great but keeping the chain lubed up smooths things out just a little.

I will own the fact that rarely lube my chain so that don't help.

Check your gear leaver is in a good position for you and it is well lubricated too.

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post #5 of 15 Old 07-23-2019, 01:25 PM
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I always preload, especially up shifts. why not just continue preloading? faster, smoother shifts and no false neutrals etc...

i purposely tried not preloadong on my way to work this am and had one or two clunkers between 1st and 2nd. may have been my awkward technique, not giving it enough force or the gearbox. i only have 4k km on it and am running a semi oil.
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post #6 of 15 Old 07-23-2019, 01:40 PM
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The legendary Kari Prager, may he rest in peace, suggested once that I'd have better luck if I short shifted between first and second rather than running any higher revs in first. He was talking about me riding my BMW R1100GS at the time, but it really helped me out a lot.
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post #7 of 15 Old 07-23-2019, 01:56 PM
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Mine did seem to smooth out, but as precaution i always preload, especially 1-2. if not, i shift at a lower rpm as others said.

Oils did make a big difference for me, with Mobil being shifting the best on my particular bike.

I thought a got a clunker, literally, when i first started driving it. But with a combination of the above i feel its normal now.
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post #8 of 15 Old 07-23-2019, 04:17 PM
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In my experience, no, it's the opposite.
My lil guy likes it when i gear up with authority (not to be confused with forced lol), when i'm too smooth it can end up in neutral or will hop off of second gear as i give it gas (last one is rare, but happened a couple times).

Was told it was normal, more than once, so i made my peace with it
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post #9 of 15 Old 07-25-2019, 08:26 AM
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Keep the chain properly adjusted to begin with. A too loose chain will contribute towards poor gear changes.

Some bikes improve with mileage and others don't. A former KTM had a notchy gear change from the getgo and it never went away. My current 2016 Strom could be a bit notchy twixt 5th and 6th but in fact that is improving and only now occasionally appears at 12,000kms. I think the cause is a poorly machined gear where the dogs of the mating gear have difficulty slipping into place. With time and plenty of use the imperfection can get polished out and the change gradually improves. I suggest that You make sure to be positive and firm with the change and if it is still a major issue with about 5000 miles on the ODO then take it up with the dealer.

A poorly disengaging clutch can also contribute. That too can improve with mileage as the clutch plates get more comfortable with each other.

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post #10 of 15 Old 07-25-2019, 01:47 PM
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My '18xt has a real slamming 1-2. I just giv'er and ride.

The 20w50 Valvoline conventional did seem to help.
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