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post #1 of 41 Old 09-05-2018, 07:02 AM Thread Starter
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Snappy throttle (on/off)

Ok so it's been a few months now that I got the bike and my only complaint is the throttle at low speed. Throttle cable play and chain slack are fine it's really like there's a dead spot in the throttle at low speed (in 1st of 2nd).

I've read a little and it looks like it's the way the mapping has been done, so will a PCV will can help prevent the fuel cut? I commute with the bike and with the cold season coming I want to get my hand off the freezing cold clutch lever as much as possible when following traffic at low speed. Went down a tooth in front and now looking at going up 2 in the back, but still afraid it won't be enough and looking for other solutions.
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A lot of folks like throttle tamer for this. It definitely works, but it's not for everyone. I didn't like how it made the bike feel slow.. it required much more of a twist to get into power, but it definitely smoothed out initial roll-on.
I know PC helps with throttle tip-in on many bikes, but no personal experience with it on the V. I think the throttle on this bike is not bad at all, compared to some others I've ridden, but again to each his own.
Can also try lever covers to get rid of the cold feel:
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Ok so it's been a few months now that I got the bike and my only complaint is the throttle at low speed. Throttle cable play and chain slack are fine it's really like there's a dead spot in the throttle at low speed (in 1st of 2nd).

I've read a little and it looks like it's the way the mapping has been done, so will a PCV will can help prevent the fuel cut? I commute with the bike and with the cold season coming I want to get my hand off the freezing cold clutch lever as much as possible when following traffic at low speed. Went down a tooth in front and now looking at going up 2 in the back, but still afraid it won't be enough and looking for other solutions.

I think that you've made the problem worse by gearing the bike lower. That's going to exaggerate the on/off lurching not smooth it out.

Slipping the clutch is just part of low speed riding. Ride the back brake and slip if you're going under 5mph. You're not going to be able to get a smooth throttle transition from 0 to 5% (for example) no matter what you do. There's inherent slop in the system, i.e. throttle cables, linkage, chain, rear hub cushions, etc.

WebBikeWorld has a good series on the 1000. He takes steps to smooth out the throttle and my 1000 has his recommendations. Still going slow (<5mph) it's slip the clutch ride the rear brake.
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Under 5mph, I will slip the clutch and drag the rear brake, it's over 5mph that I have an issue.

Again this morning I was on a ramp (180 deg U with a small decline) in 2nd, traffic slowed down so I let the throttle go a little and bike start to engine brake way too much and had to straighten the bike and downshift in 1st. Not the end of the world, but the 09 DL650 never did that in the same rpm range (I know different bike/engine)

I've ordered those exact sleeve a few weeks back from China and hope they get here soon. From what I've read they work, but are a PITA to install.

Like spec mentioned, the gearing probably doesn't help and this morning I probably would have been in 1st without the new gearing giving me more rpm. I'll try to go up 2-3 teeth in the back and see how I like it since 90% of my riding is my commute and don't my top speed.
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When I'm in first my fingers are on the clutch lever ready to slip it. A lot of people ride with their fingers on the levers all the time. I don't but I'm quick to slip if needed.

I wouldn't have shifted down to 1st in your ramp example I would have slipped the clutch in 2nd. Down shifting from 2nd to first just increases the engine surge.

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Grip Puppies can help a sharp throttle, as they slightly increase grip diameter and therefore increase the 'rolling radius'.
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Grip Puppies can help a sharp throttle, as they slightly increase grip diameter and therefore increase the 'rolling radius'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXY2CGyqWo
yeah already have grip buddies on the bike, I guess the next step is the tamer.

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Keep the 16T front sprocket and install a boosterplug

There are several posts about it here, search using google.
https://www.stromtrooper.com/5106346-post9.html
https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl1000a...ml#post5106346

Will not be perfect but more manageable at lower rpm's. Its a bit pricy but I like mine!
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After trying many different ways to secure new grips I found that squirting a black spray can inside the grip, plus tie wire to be the best method by far. The paint lubricates the grip on and allows time to move it into position. I never use glue, and even rain or mud will not move them. This is my method learned on dirt bikes.
Try a little clearcoat spray can on the lever covers.
I also recommend taking as much free play as possible from the throttle cable to reduce lurching, but check carefully lock to lock before riding. You also need to use the clutch. It is unavoidable at jogging speeds. Injected v-twins tend to be very snatchy on/off throttle.
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