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post #1 of 32 Old 01-27-2018, 05:59 PM Thread Starter
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Knock knock who is there

Who is there my 2018 DL1000 ADV. with Idle Hammer. After 43 new Motorcycles Dirt and Street first new bike that the engine had a loud knock, my neighbors can hear me when I pull in the garage. The big boys says it does not hurt anything well it sure hurts pride of ownership. Guess I had better call Werks for a fix. I read all good reports in the Cycle Rags no mention of this I should have done more research shame on me...

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post #2 of 32 Old 01-27-2018, 06:46 PM
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Don't sweat it. Its not the clutch. Ride it and just don't let it idle any length of time. Some are really noisy others much less, luck of the draw.

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It's funny how important expectation is. Car and bike forums are full of reports of things people don't like yet just about every individual unit of a particular make and model has. It's far easier and cheaper to change one's expectation but also rarer. I once had my heart set on a certain model car but the turn signal did not click and my elbow hit something on the center console every time I shifted gears. I knew I'd never get used to those things. Magazine coverage of the model revealed other inadequacies so I was glad in retrospect. I was fine with V-Strom noise because almost every bike I owned before was air cooled and noisier.

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Before you toss the bike out with the bathwater, give the Werks a try - it's a fairly easy install. It didn't eliminate the noise on mine, but did greatly reduce the volume.

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post #5 of 32 Old 01-27-2018, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
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Before you toss the bike out with the bathwater, give the Werks a try - it's a fairly easy install. It didn't eliminate the noise on mine, but did greatly reduce the volume.
Not going to toss the Bike, I have been on Werks website and have been doing a lot reading on the issue. Have had a lot of bikes that had valve & cam chain noise, my dl650 clutch noise. First for me with a Knock deep in the engine. I expected better I will live with it Ear plugs are my Friend...Other wise I love the bike...
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It's all a matter of perspective.

My 04 DL1000 came to me with with the lurching, coughing, and bucking that the first gen bikes are famous for. It was nearly unrideable at low speed/rpm. It also has a pretty bad case of the chudder, vertigo inducing buffeting, an extremely abrupt throttle, and I can't add any risers because apparently I have the shortest brake lines in North America (go me).

It took a while but I finally got most of it under control and still have a few items left to address. After dealing with all that and all the comfort issues I just don't care about the idle hammer.
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Yes I agree Old Codger pride of ownership, purchased my 2017 Dl1000XT last September initially zero problems ,and basically on the way home after the first oil change idle knock became very apparent. I was very disappointed in this , I realise no bike is perfect but Iím fussy so purchased the Werks idle tamer from Terry and while it didnít totally eliminate the knock itís reduced it significantly.
Itís unusual as not all bikes do it , buddy rides a 2016 with nil issues .
Will ride on ,did a 450 km ride today which was awesome .
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I've got 4500 miles on my 2018 DL1000XT and the engine sounds great warming up from a cold start, and it still sounds great after it's warmed up and while I'm riding it.

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post #9 of 32 Old 01-28-2018, 08:59 PM Thread Starter
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I've got 4500 miles on my 2018 DL1000XT and the engine sounds great warming up from a cold start, and it still sounds great after it's warmed up and while I'm riding it.
Sounds like you are one of the lucky ones. If it had Idle Hammer you would sure know it. Not all of the DL 1000 have it. I like what you have done to your Bike looks Great.

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It's funny how important expectation is. Car and bike forums are full of reports of things people don't like yet just about every individual unit of a particular make and model has. It's far easier and cheaper to change one's expectation but also rarer. I once had my heart set on a certain model car but the turn signal did not click and my elbow hit something on the center console every time I shifted gears. I knew I'd never get used to those things. Magazine coverage of the model revealed other inadequacies so I was glad in retrospect. I was fine with V-Strom noise because almost every bike I owned before was air cooled and noisier.
So true! I am currently researching new vehicles for my wife. I bought a Jeep Wrangler Recon in September for me. They are an unusual vehicle compared to most. I like it. A lot so far. Logged in to Consumer reports where the vehicle I was researching for her got a score of 81. Which is well above average. Well, let's check the Jeep! 23!!!! Wow, had I read that and really trusted CR to be the final word I would NEVER have bought the Jeep!

There is too much information available today.......

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