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post #21 of 43 Old 01-24-2018, 12:51 PM Thread Starter
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Reading through the OP's posts, I think he clarifies a bit - and he's trying to make his point.

1) he owns a 2018 V-Strom 1000
2) it had rained for six straight days. He couldn't ride so he kept his bike inside.
3) on the seventh day (oh dear...) the skies parted, and it was clear and 17C / 62.6 F. While he didn't specify the unit of measurement, I take it from the fact that his area "rarely goes below freezing" that it also rarely gets down to -8C / 17F, and that he wouldn't ride in that amount of cold.
4) He went for a ride, and after the ride inspected his bike, and noticed the rust.

I think there is a rush to assume that he rode in the dead of winter - I believe considering he contacted Suzuki Germany and Greece that he likely lives in Europe, and from the text I'm going to guess he lives in Greece. Suzuki Motorad may have been the first address he found to reach out to on social media, who knows.

All of that said, I'm a terrible mechanic and I have no suggestions to whether the issue happened as a result of road salt or not. He has a fair point - a 250km / 155 mile ride should not beat the bike like that. I would think that the 6 days of rain would have washed the salt / de-icer away. Perhaps he road into the mountains, where they had re-applied. And perhaps it is rare enough wherever he lives that there are generally signs/warnings when the salt/melter is applied, and there were none.

I don't know. I know that there are many many times that I have not washed my bike off after a ride. If it was 17 / 63 degrees, sunny, and dry, I wouldn't think about it - and haven't thought about it - many times. I also don't know that my discussion adds anything, except to say that lets remember not everyone is in the deepest darkest depths of winter at this time of the year.
I’m from Greece. I live in an island. It rarely goes below zero.
The day I rode my bike I went out of the island. I took my bike and same day return on a total distance of around 250km.
The weather was all sunny and 17 degrees Celsius. On the roads there are no signs whatsoever that salt or any other thing has been applied.
On the evening of that Sunday I was home. And monday morning and all week long was raining. The bike stayed inside. Next Sunday morning it was fine weather until around 1600 hours. On morning I went to clean my bike and found it like that.
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And yes I think the bike was beaten to easily. And if at any time I knew this would happen I would have had protected my investment. This bike has costed me with the extras 18000 Euros.
Which is around 22000 USD
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And I never had this kind of problems with my DL650 K8 ABS that I had for years before selling it to buy this one.
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The key is that with a new bike, that you have a "reasonable" expectation to use it without substantial rust occurring.
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So are you thinking Suzuki switched the steel they manufacture with to one with something like lead or sulfur added? (makes them more corrosive) As unlikely as that seems if that is the case one could get a metallurgy analysis done on a part compared to an older bike. Sounds like an expensive suit that would likely not win in the US. What would help is if everyone with the new bikes noticed the same thing (a class action suit). I believe one has no chance.

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So are you thinking Suzuki switched the steel they manufacture with to one with something like lead or sulfur added? (makes them more corrosive) As unlikely as that seems if that is the case one could get a metallurgy analysis done on a part compared to an older bike. Sounds like an expensive suit that would likely not win in the US. What would help is if everyone with the new bikes noticed the same thing (a class action suit). I believe one has no chance.
Really don’t know mate. But I really had no problem with the older one.
I’ve got time. And I’ve got money.
The first spot that I ever saw like corrosion on the bike was on the rear sprocket. And it was on August. Didn’t give it much attention as it is something that gets changed. Disposable.
But this is too much. Even if I get a new bike. Which is what the lawsuit will be. I’ll be selling it and probably get a ST or a GS.
The money I’ve spent on this could have gotten a GS LC fully equipped.
If I start writing is everything suzuki sells for this bike.
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And I never had this kind of problems with my DL650 K8 ABS that I had for years before selling it to buy this one.

Hate to burst your bubble but a lawsuit in any country will most likely be impossible. Metal rusts and they spell it out in the manual for this exact reason. This is from my 2010 manual but I would suspect it is the same, if not more detailed in the 2018. Sea air, road salt, rain, humidity and not washing the bike after....think you nailed everyone in the list below.

Save you money on a lawyer and spend it getting someone to clean the bike if you don't want to do it yourself.

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CORROSION PREVENTION
It is important to take good care of
your motorcycle to protect it from
corrosion and keep it looking new
for years to come.
Important Information About
Corrosion
Common causes of corrosion
• Accumulation of road salt, dirt,
moisture, or chemicals in hardto-
reach areas.
• Chipping, scratches, and any
damage to treated or painted
metal surfaces resulting from
minor accidents or impacts
from stones and gravel.
Road salt, sea air, industrial pollution,
and high humidity will all contribute
to corrosion.
How to Help Prevent Corrosion
• Wash your motorcycle frequently,
at least once a month.
Keep your motorcycle as clean
and dry as possible.
• Remove foreign material
deposits. Foreign material
such as road salt, chemicals,
road oil or tar, tree sap, bird
droppings and industrial fallout
may damage your motorcycle’s
finish. Remove these
types of deposits as soon as
possible. If these deposits are
difficult to wash off, an additional
cleaner may be required.
Follow the manufacturer’s
directions when using these
special cleaners.
Repair finish damage as soon
as possible. Carefully examine
your motorcycle for damage
to the painted surfaces.
Should you find any chips or
scratches in the paint, touch
them up immediately to prevent
corrosion from starting. If
the chips or scratches have
gone through to the bare
metal, have a Suzuki dealer
make the repair.
• Store your motorcycle in a dry,
well-ventilated area. If you
often wash your motorcycle in
the garage or if you frequently
park it inside when wet, your
garage may be damp. The
high humidity may cause or
accelerate corrosion. A wet
motorcycle may corrode even
in a heated garage if the ventilation
is poor.
• Cover your motorcycle. Exposure
to mid-day sun can cause
the colors in paint, plastic
parts, and instrument faces to
fade. Covering your motorcycle
with a high-quality, “breathable”
motorcycle cover can
help protect the finish from the
harmful UV rays in sunlight,
and can reduce the amount of
dust and air pollution reaching
the surface. Your Suzuki
dealer can help you select the
right cover for your motorcycle.

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I doubt you are going to get help from Suzuki but who knows.

My brake rotors rust easily after they get wet. Not sure how bad the salt air is over there but I'm sure that it's worse than MN USA.

I'd just take matters into your own hands and get some of that ACF-50 aircraft rust preventer like Greywolf said. Hose it down, clean etc...

Let us know if Suzuki helps or not.
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One could spend the money on a spray washer. :-)

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Thanks guys I will let you know.
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