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post #1 of 10 Old 05-17-2019, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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Possibly Moving to a DL1000 - Questions

So I'm halfway through the process Niteryder started - I sold my 2008 DL650 last year because:
1) like many others, I just couldn't stop thinking about the next bike,
2) I felt it just gets too wrung out at highway speeds (I live in Utah, so I'm talking 80 mph on long rides),
3) after all the farkles I put on it, I got to where I could only ride 45 min or so before my back hurt, and
4) a friend died in a motorcycle accident and I thought I was done riding.

Now it's spring, and I realize I'm not done riding. I think the back issue was related to a) a SeatConcepts seat (which lowers the standover height), b) 2" risers and a different position for the handlebars, and c) not lowering the pegs (ie, totally messing up a geometry that worked great at the outset).

I spent the entire winter off-and-on checking into bikes - FJR, R1200's (RS and RTs), anything and everything, Every bike I looked at, I compared to my 650 (and they all came up lacking - not roadworthy, not dirt-worthy, etc.). I finally stopped into the pusher (local Suzuki dealer) and just straddled a 2019 DL1000. What a difference the redesign made in the center of gravity! It is way easier to "pick up" off the kickstand than my Wee ever was, and felt great. It was a rainy day and I didn't have time for a ride, but I'm looking for a dealer who'll let me take a 14-19 DL1000 out for a couple hours, to see if my back is better when I'm back to a bone-stock configuration. My interest is definitely piqued, although the $7k for a used 2014 is going to turn off my "CF-No" (that would be my wife).

So I have a few questions:
  • Did the 1000 come with ABS ever, before 2014? Can I pick up something older and get that safety feature? That's a deal-breaker for me, and if I have to skip this season in order to save up, I will do it.
  • Is the 1000 actually less reliable than the 650? A few have mentioned it requires more maintenance, and maybe implied there are reliability issues the 650 doesn't exhibit.
  • Did the redesign address any of the "buzziness" of the 1000? That really irked me when I was test riding bikes and bought my '08. The 1000 had this buzziness right around where I'd want to change gears each time. If that's the only "catch" in moving to a 1000, I'll live with it - I am pretty sure the extra power and lower RPMs at higher speeds are what I'm looking for, and I'll take the hit if I need to.

Bottom line, I'm looking for a slightly more powerful version of my Wee - great on the road, reliable, cheap to maintain, usable on dirt surfaces occasionally, doesn't cost me my retirement, and lets me ride at lower RPMs on the highway. I travel to Southern Utah a lot, and want to be able to ride the bike down there, which means 4 of 5 hours spent at 80+ mph. Once I get there, I want to be able to head out a forest service road to a trailhead.

Thanks so much for any answers you can provide!
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The 14+ Strom still has some buzziness and I notice it most at motorway cruising speeds around 5000 rpm. My other issue with mine is an abruptness in the fuelling around 3000rpm and that can be a nuisance at low speeds in traffic but I have adjusted to it.

Other than these two issues and a slight harshness in the fork action when new, my L6 is a delight to ride and is an excellent two up bike. I believe it steers better and quicker than the earlier models but I could be corrected on that. On my favoured backroads I sometimes find myself going far too quick on it solo because of its quick steering and the ease with which the motor pulls in the usable rev range.

I understand your desire to have a little more power than the 650 but perhaps not quite as much as the 1000. I suggest trying Yamaha's Tracer 700 or Hondas excellent NC700X. I have owned the NC and currently own a variation of it, being the X-Adv 750.

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Just throwing it out there you might want to consider going back to a new or newer 650. Some here have picked up brand new left over models for well under $7k. And with a 16T sprocket 80mph will be a bit more relaxed than stock, and theres plenty of power in 5th gear if needed.
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No ABS available for first generation (pre 2014 ) DL 1000.

Any buzziness on a new bike would surprise me. On a used bike that can be the clutch basket. No worries, it won't break but can be improved.

Reliability? The newer 650 has had a couple issues itself. The 1000 is far better as far as needing "stuff" done to it to make it right than the first generation. But not without some issues. None of which would make me not consider one. But yes, the 650 is still probably going to be slightly less likely to need any attention.

The 2014+ DL 1000 is no longer a larger bike with few actual upgrades over the 650 ( besides the engine ). Now it has vastly superior front forks/suspension and vastly superior front brakes. And yes it has ABS and the later versions have some pretty good traction control modes.
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My 14 had the rough throttle response until I got ecu recall completed.
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I can't speak for the 650 as I have never owned or ridden one. I just picked up my '14 DL1000 a month ago and did a fly and ride to the tune of 1,700 miles in 2-1/2 days. Other than not being in ANY kind of riding shape which I'm certain caused my mid-back/shoulder pain with all those miles, my biggest complaint was the stock seat and things going numb down under. I've since done a six hour ride and had some "slight" mid-back pain but, again, I think it's more due to being out of riding condition and getting comfortable on a bike again (15 years since I'd ridden last). I didn't notice any "buzziness" unless I was well into the 6k rpm's. And 80 was well short of that. Since I'm a new owner I cannot comment on longevity or maintenance issues but all the research I did here before buying, I would not expect it to be any more troublesome than the 650. Good luck in your journey.
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Love my 2014 Vee and would not buy anything earlier than that. As for the seat, buy an airmax seat cushion. You will love it and ride forever without going numb!
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Love my 2014 Vee and would not buy anything earlier than that. As for the seat, buy an airmax seat cushion. You will love it and ride forever without going numb!

I have been on seats before where I where I would have paid for "it" to go numb!

'12 DL 650 '14 BMW R 1200 RT

WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
The BEST in chudder control, noise control, and lasting durability! AVAILABLE HERE: www.werksparts.com

Have questions about the clutch in your DL or SV 1000? E-mail Terry [email protected]
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johno_SLC, I'm on my 4th DL1000. I've had a 2008, two 2014s and I recently added a 2019 standard model. My son recently purchased a 2019 DL650 XT. I swapped him for a ride and he took my 2019 DL1000. The power difference is substantial and the 650 feels smaller all around. He has upper back issues and complained that his 650 was bothering his back and shoulder but said my 1000 didn't. I am 6'1" and find the 1000 more comfortable and has a much more relaxed nature at that 80 MPH mark than the 650. The 1000 is also very smooth at an indicated 80 MPH, more so than the 650. I still have one of the 2014 DL1000s and have had the ECM upgrade done to it. I can't tell any real difference in the engine performance between the 2014 and the 2019. I can hardly tell any difference in the handling as well. I'd buy a 2014 DL1000 again in a heartbeat. There were so many improvements from the first generation (2008 I had) to the 2014, I wouldn't consider buying the earlier model.

By the way, I live in St. George. If you get down this way, give me a yell and I'll get both bikes out and you can give them a try.
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