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Clutch or slave cylinder???

Hey gang - here are the details and symptoms:
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90,000 kilometres

If the bike is NOT running, in gear, clutch lever fully depressed: bike will not roll
If the bike is NOT running and I start it in first gear with the clutch lever fully depressed: bike lurches forward 2"-3"
If the bike is RUNNING and I drop it into first gear with the clutch lever fully depressed: there is a noticeable cla-clunk sound and the bike tries to move forward for a split second

A new clutch kit is relatively inexpensive from Suzuki, and I am not afraid to tackle the job, but I am looking for some input first - I have had my slave cylinder replaced once already due to a leak. Is it at all feasible that the symptoms indicated above are slave cylinder related?

Any input is appreciated - thanks all,

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Have you changed and bled the clutch hydraulic system recently? If not, that's the first thing I would try before tearing into the bike.
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The clutches are stout in this motor. (My plates are still within spec at over double your mileage.) And when they start to go, you will have the opposite symptoms to what you are experiencing - slipping, not grabbing.

In all likelihood, your hydraulic system is acting up. This is exactly what happens when your fluid level is low. I'm on slave cylinder number 4 now. Each was rebuilt at least once as well.
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Almost guaranteed to be the Slave Cylinder. I have been through several, one just last week. I have ordered a spare (again) but also am going to try rebuild the one that failed as it's pretty new.

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The clutches are stout in this motor. (My plates are still within spec at over double your mileage.) And when they start to go, you will have the opposite symptoms to what you are experiencing - slipping, not grabbing.

In all likelihood, your hydraulic system is acting up. This is exactly what happens when your fluid level is low. I'm on slave cylinder number 4 now. Each was rebuilt at least once as well.
What kind of mileage is on your DL1000? trying to get a sense of how long the slaves have lasted (I am hard on things!)

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What kind of mileage is on your DL1000? trying to get a sense of how long the slaves have lasted (I am hard on things!)

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You just need to better clean all that lube/gunk back there regularly my friend.

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You just need to better clean all that lube/gunk back there regularly my friend.
Could be but I ride in a lot of crap and I suspect taking apart the front sprocket area is part of the problem as well.v last time I changed it the area wasn't all the bad.

Seems like I am not the only one:

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The clutches are stout in this motor. (My plates are still within spec at over double your mileage.) And when they start to go, you will have the opposite symptoms to what you are experiencing - slipping, not grabbing.

In all likelihood, your hydraulic system is acting up. This is exactly what happens when your fluid level is low. I'm on slave cylinder number 4 now. Each was rebuilt at least once as well.
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I really think there needs to be some work put into finding a better seal. Unless these are simply full of crud ( which shouldn't be getting past the seal...) then the material must be failing in the seal. Maybe something with a different lip design? I don't have one here to measure and research. But I would be if I was still riding a 1000.

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What kind of mileage is on your DL1000? trying to get a sense of how long the slaves have lasted (I am hard on things!)

..Tom
199000kms as of today.

I think people who don't experience the slave failures aren't riding in slop. It's the wet weather that does them in. All chain fling that settles in the front sprocket area is directed precisely at the slave every time you park on the side stand. Put the side stand on the other side of the bike and I bet the slaves never fail.

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199000kms as of today.

I think people who don't experience the slave failures aren't riding in slop. It's the wet weather that does them in. All chain fling that settles in the front sprocket area is directed precisely at the slave every time you park on the side stand. Put the side stand on the other side of the bike and I bet the slaves never fail.
What you are saying dovetails with my riding. Lots of wet and crap. I'm only at 166,000 km so a bit short of you but it sounds like our slave cylinder lifetime is in the same ballpark.

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