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post #11 of 33 Old 02-11-2019, 11:04 PM
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The 705 Shinko's have the M&S showing on the tire. Not sure about the snowflake.
Some of the Canadians I've met ride the crap out of the warm weather and work all winter in the oil industry when the permafrost is solid and they can move the drilling rigs.
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From what I understand the "Snowflake" is the symbol that it's a winter tire.

I didn't bother with the Anlas this year. I only put them on last year in case I got caught in snow (which happens on occasion.) I didn't find them any better in cold or snow than the Tourance Next I normally ride on.

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Big mileage and very encouraging for the rest of us 👍👍
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Crossed over 160,000 km / 100,000 miles today:



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Obviously a question arising is how has it been with regard to reliability/replacement of parts etc ?

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Obviously a question arising is how has it been with regard to reliability/replacement of parts etc ?
Good you asked as it made me look back through my spreadsheet and remembered some things happened that I forgot about.

For me the weak point has been the hydraulic Slave Cylinder. Some issues with it have been self inflicted, others are just the nature of it.

-The ECU was done in the early days under a recall.

-I have need the wiring harness replaced two times for abrasion causing short circuits. Suzuki covered both (last one was at 110,005 km. Don't recall the first)

-Most expensive fix was the stepper motor for the valve that is in the exhaust system (148,938 km). (These things are problematic across the Motorcycle and Automobile industry.) Next time I will likely get the bypass.

-Valves have been checked twice and have not needed any adjustment. Did plugs the second time the valves were adjusted.

-Steering bearing replaced at 108,227 km

-Forgot the Rear Wheel bearings replaced at 108,227 km and 153,880 km

-First chain (the one that came with bike) replaced at 76,180 km / 47,336 miles. Second chain (from OEM kit) is still on bike currently has 83,865 km / 52,111 miles. Will be replaced with next tire change which should be in about 10,000 km / 6,000 miles

-front and rear sprockets replaced when chain is replaced. Front sprockets also replaced a bit past half way of what I expect the chain to last.

-rear Pads replaced 5 times. Rear disk once at 107,231 km
-Front pads replaced three times (Probably getting close to needing again.)

-on the 7th front tire, 12th rear. I usually use Tourance Next but tried Anlas winter tires for the winter of 2017/2018. I didn't find they performed any better than the Tourance Next in cold and light snow covered roads so haven't bother with them this year. I don't know how many flats I have plugged on this bike but probably about 5. All were rear tires. Worst was what must have been a carpet staple that put two holes close together near the edge of a tread block. Very hard to plug them both and ended up replacing the tire early because of it. That was the only time I had to replace a tire early and even then it was just a very slow leak after plugging.

-Air filter replaced roughly every 50,000 to 60,000 km

-8,742.68 liters of fuel, 2,309.6 US Gallons. I normally use top-tier ethanol free 91 octane but have used regular when 91 not available (runs fine but I do avoid low rev/high throttle opening with the lower octane.) Total cost of fuel $11,053.98 Can$ ($8,306.58 US$ at today's exchange rate.)

-I change oil at about 12,000 km / 7,500 miles. I have done some oil changes early ahead of larger trips. Filter is done with every other oil Change. I run factory filters and Rotella 5w40.

I realized this week I have over 502,033 km / 311,948 miles total mileage on the three Stroms I have owned (own.)

..Tom

2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 175,000+ km, 108,500+ miles.

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Man, you've gotta give lessons or something, because this is a master class in 'gettin' on yer bike'.

Call me a noob, but that mileage is amazing. I'm impressed with your determination and the bike. I'm also envious of your adventures; you can't ride that mileage without having seen some amazing territory; I guess the maps demonstrate that pretty clearly. As I wind down my work life, the riding to 'away places' is on my agenda. Though I don't know that I'll live long enough to make 160K kms or fill in my technicolor map as you have.

Thanks also for the maintenance summary. Really cool.
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Very impressive accomplishment V-Tom, shows a real dedication to riding a bike. And thanks for posting your maintenance summary, very informative.
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Good you asked as it made me look back through my spreadsheet and remembered some things happened that I forgot about.

For me the weak point has been the hydraulic Slave Cylinder. Some issues with it have been self inflicted, others are just the nature of it.

-The ECU was done in the early days under a recall.

-I have need the wiring harness replaced two times for abrasion causing short circuits. Suzuki covered both (last one was at 110,005 km. Don't recall the first)

-Most expensive fix was the stepper motor for the valve that is in the exhaust system (148,938 km). (These things are problematic across the Motorcycle and Automobile industry.) Next time I will likely get the bypass.

-Valves have been checked twice and have not needed any adjustment. Did plugs the second time the valves were adjusted.

-Steering bearing replaced at 108,227 km

-Forgot the Rear Wheel bearings replaced at 108,227 km and 153,880 km

-First chain (the one that came with bike) replaced at 76,180 km / 47,336 miles. Second chain (from OEM kit) is still on bike currently has 83,865 km / 52,111 miles. Will be replaced with next tire change which should be in about 10,000 km / 6,000 miles

-front and rear sprockets replaced when chain is replaced. Front sprockets also replaced a bit past half way of what I expect the chain to last.

-rear Pads replaced 5 times. Rear disk once at 107,231 km
-Front pads replaced three times (Probably getting close to needing again.)

-on the 7th front tire, 12th rear. I usually use Tourance Next but tried Anlas winter tires for the winter of 2017/2018. I didn't find they performed any better than the Tourance Next in cold and light snow covered roads so haven't bother with them this year. I don't know how many flats I have plugged on this bike but probably about 5. All were rear tires. Worst was what must have been a carpet staple that put two holes close together near the edge of a tread block. Very hard to plug them both and ended up replacing the tire early because of it. That was the only time I had to replace a tire early and even then it was just a very slow leak after plugging.

-Air filter replaced roughly every 50,000 to 60,000 km

-8,742.68 liters of fuel, 2,309.6 US Gallons. I normally use top-tier ethanol free 91 octane but have used regular when 91 not available (runs fine but I do avoid low rev/high throttle opening with the lower octane.) Total cost of fuel $11,053.98 Can$ ($8,306.58 US$ at today's exchange rate.)

-I change oil at about 12,000 km / 7,500 miles. I have done some oil changes early ahead of larger trips. Filter is done with every other oil Change. I run factory filters and Rotella 5w40.

I realized this week I have over 502,033 km / 311,948 miles total mileage on the three Stroms I have owned (own.)

..Tom
Many thanks for taking the trouble to give this response. I am amazed at Your chain mileages. They are something I can only dream of on most bikes but I am not long on my Strom so that aspect remains to be seen. I am now taking on the change of front sprocket also on my chain drive bikes at the half way mark to avoid unnecessarily early chain replacement for the sake of a front sprocket.

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Many thanks for taking the trouble to give this response. I am amazed at Your chain mileages. They are something I can only dream of on most bikes but I am not long on my Strom so that aspect remains to be seen. I am now taking on the change of front sprocket also on my chain drive bikes at the half way mark to avoid unnecessarily early chain replacement for the sake of a front sprocket.
I probably spew on about chain maintenance a lot. Some people seem to think that I am taking risks with my chain as they have had chains fail long before my chains wear out.

Here is what I base my information on:

First Strom, 2006 DL650:

Chain 1: Maintained as per the manual. Clean with Kerosene and lubed at 1,000km / 6000 miles using typical chain lube: Chain replaced as 33,900 km / 21,064 miles. My Tire and chain guy (Ted Rose) said to lube way more often using Wurth HHS2000 and that cleaning was highly over-rated.

Chain 2: I did NOT take Ted's advice and maintained as above except one "cleaning" I had accidentally used some wood stain but immediately realized it and cleaned with Kerosene. Chain was replaced (totally shot) at 37,900 km /23,550 km. It was actually done before that on a the second day or a long trip when @Heavy saw the red dust of death on my chain. Long story short we nursed it home using copious amount of lube as plans to get a replacement on the trip failed.

Chain 3: Took Ted's advice and lubed using Wurth HHS2000 with every tank of gas and after every ride in the rain. Chain and sprockets replaced at 74,865 km / 46,507 miles (Front sprocket done earlier.) Ted said there was no real reason to change the chain then as it looked fine but I was starting a long trip so replaced it anyway.

Chain 4: was on the bike when I retired it. (Bike was replaced by the 2012 DL650.) The chain had 55,769 km / 34,653 miles on it. Chain was fine when I parked it. It sat in my hanger for several years and the bike went to a
friend. He got the engine running but hasn't ridden it.

2nd Strom: 2012 DL650:

Chain 5 (on my 2012 DL650): Maintained as per Ted's method. Was replaced at 66,060 km / 41,048 miles. Chain looked fine and was actually replaced early as I accidentally rode though a big puddle of wet concrete (left behind by a Cement truck on a back gravel road I'm sure) that coated almost everything on the bike.

Chain 6: had 58,535 km / 36,372 miles on it when I sold the bike. Don't know how long the new owner kept the chain on the bike but it was perfectly fine when I sold it.

2015 DL1000:

Chain 7: (on the 2015 DL1000): Replaced at 76,180 km / 47,336 miles. Looked perfectly fine and figured next chain I would go longer.

Chain 8: One bike now. As of Sunday had 83,865 km / 52,111 miles. Chain looks fine and will be replaced with next tire change which will likely be in about 10,000 km / 6,200 miles so it would have around 94,000 km / 58,000 miles

On the DL1000 I have been using the OEM kits as they are priced very well up here in Canada.

***

Some people say I must baby the bike and only ride in nice conditions but here is very typical shot of how my chain looks on the bike. Rain, salted/brined roads, and unpaved roads are common:



Some of the conditions my bikes have seen:

My 2006 DL650:



Death Valley. It hit 126f:



Where my 2012 DL650 lived a lot of it's life(We got covers after this):



(My bike and my wife's now live in the garage.)


My 2015 DL1000 caught in some freezing slush:



Hot day slabbing down the interstate. That is 38c or 100f



And in sand at the ocean:



Slimey muddy road:



..Tom
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2015 DL1000 New July 2015 175,000+ km, 108,500+ miles.

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Thanks again for your last post. Interesting reading again and the increased mileage that You achieved suggests that Ted's advice was good. My chain regime does not include cleaning. I also lube more or less every tank alternating between oil and grease every second tank. My lubing is also increased during wet rides. My bike is used in all conditions albeit I will stop short of sand, but salt and gravel roads are included. So far my regime more or less coincides with what You do and with what Ted recommends, except for the Wurth lube. I am also in course of adopting the change of front sprocket mid chain life.

I will follow up on the Wurth HHS2000 and see how that pans out with my chain life. I see two versions, one oil and one grease. Which do You use ? Thanks again for your very extensive and useful input.
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