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post #1 of 32 Old 10-07-2016, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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2014 V-Strom 1000 upgrade or not

I have a 2013 DL650A FARKLed I really love with 11k miles. I have the opportunity to pick up a new 2014 DL1000 red (favorite color - lol) up that is a previous year leftover at a very low price which is how I got my 650 at the same place.

For you guys that have owned both - is it worth it and why? They also have one 2015 sitting there. None are the Adventure model. I can hang on to the 650 per wife or is that a waste? I ride 95/5 paved/unpaved. A lot of Ozark riding and some well groomed fire roads. I have test ridden the 1000 but just not enough miles for a good comparison. I read a few threads on this but still not decided.

Any issues with the 2014s or 2015s?

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The 2014 you are looking at will have had the recall performed already, so that won't be an issue. It may still have the old ECU in it though, which you may find causes the bike to stall sometimes, you could make that a condition of sale that if there are any issues with stalling, the dealer will swap it out. Make sure you get that in writing.

Other than that, it's a fantastic bike, light and fun to ride, but you have to decide if it is better than what you have currently.

Keep both bikes for a while and decide maybe?
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I wasn't very happy with my 2014.

1. Rear rack on them had no clear coat so the paint peels off and looks awful. They will repair this under the 1st year warranty.
2. The quality of the paint on the entire bike is subpar. I had issues with the paint on the frame and gas tank. The gas tank was scratched very badly after about 1500km. They wouldn't repair it and blamed it on my riding pants. I put 40k on my 650 with those riding pants and never put a mark on the tank.
3. The front sprocket area is not designed very well so crud builds up and you will have issues with the clutch push rod as a result. You must take this apart and clean it and it can be a chore that becomes a nightmare if you make a mistake and dump out the clutch fluid.
4. transmission is clunky
5. build quality is subpar
6. insurance is a lot more
7. it's harder on gas AND takes premium.

For the good
1. the engine is amazing, instant passing power
2. the suspension is a big upgrade over the 650
3. 2 up, the 650 feels cramped and the poor suspension is even more obvious. THe 1000 was a joy to ride 2 up, I really miss it for that and i'm not sure how long i'll have the 650 now because of my wife wanting to ride 2 up more often.

I had a 650, went ot the 1000 then to a Concours 14 then back to a 650. I prefer the 650 for riding by myself. It feels a lot lighter, more nimble and has more power then I use on a regular basis. On a trip the extra MPG and lower price of fuel helps to keep costs down.

Neither bike is perfect, but i've learned the 650 cannot do what the 1000 can do (2 up riding comfortably) so I probably should have kept the 1000 and just paid the extra insurance (about $50 a month more in Canada) and fuel costs. If I was going on a trip or ride by myself though, i'd prefer the 650 to the 1000.
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The 2014 you are looking at will have had the recall performed already, so that won't be an issue. It may still have the old ECU in it though, which you may find causes the bike to stall sometimes, you could make that a condition of sale that if there are any issues with stalling, the dealer will swap it out. Make sure you get that in writing.

Other than that, it's a fantastic bike, light and fun to ride, but you have to decide if it is better than what you have currently.

Keep both bikes for a while and decide maybe?

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2017 Kawasaki Versys-X 300 ABS (Graphite Grey)
2013 Suzuki V-Strom 650 ABS Adventure (sold)

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I rode them back to back several times now and since my 650 in an Adventure it actually felt a bit heavier and especially top heavy. Brakes, suspension, and acceleration were of course better on the 1000. Seating position was better stock for me on the 1000 but the 650 now has a TA. I don't ride too far so mileage or gas is a non-issue (more of an issue on my truck lol).

Just checked and insurance is very little difference here.

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I wasn't very happy with my 2014.

1. Rear rack on them had no clear coat so the paint peels off and looks awful. They will repair this under the 1st year warranty.
2. The quality of the paint on the entire bike is subpar. I had issues with the paint on the frame and gas tank. The gas tank was scratched very badly after about 1500km. They wouldn't repair it and blamed it on my riding pants. I put 40k on my 650 with those riding pants and never put a mark on the tank.
3. The front sprocket area is not designed very well so crud builds up and you will have issues with the clutch push rod as a result. You must take this apart and clean it and it can be a chore that becomes a nightmare if you make a mistake and dump out the clutch fluid.
4. transmission is clunky
5. build quality is subpar
6. insurance is a lot more
7. it's harder on gas AND takes premium.

For the good
1. the engine is amazing, instant passing power
2. the suspension is a big upgrade over the 650
3. 2 up, the 650 feels cramped and the poor suspension is even more obvious. THe 1000 was a joy to ride 2 up, I really miss it for that and i'm not sure how long i'll have the 650 now because of my wife wanting to ride 2 up more often.

I had a 650, went ot the 1000 then to a Concours 14 then back to a 650. I prefer the 650 for riding by myself. It feels a lot lighter, more nimble and has more power then I use on a regular basis. On a trip the extra MPG and lower price of fuel helps to keep costs down.

Neither bike is perfect, but i've learned the 650 cannot do what the 1000 can do (2 up riding comfortably) so I probably should have kept the 1000 and just paid the extra insurance (about $50 a month more in Canada) and fuel costs. If I was going on a trip or ride by myself though, i'd prefer the 650 to the 1000.

2014 Suzuki V-Strom 1000 ABS (Candy Daring Red)
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2013 Suzuki V-Strom 650 ABS Adventure (sold)

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On the tranny I found the shifting better on the 1000 - especially from 1st to 2nd where the 650 required a bit more effort or can miss.

When I walked out of there I wondered if a could have gotten them down a few hundred more? lol

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On the tranny I found the shifting better on the 1000 - especially from 1st to 2nd where the 650 required a bit more effort or can miss.

When I walked out of there I wondered if a could have gotten them down a few hundred more? lol
the clunkiness and idle hammer don't seem to start until after the first oil change.

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I rode them back to back several times now and since my 650 in an Adventure it actually felt a bit heavier and especially top heavy. Brakes, suspension, and acceleration were of course better on the 1000. Seating position was better stock for me on the 1000 but the 650 now has a TA. I don't ride too far so mileage or gas is a non-issue (more of an issue on my truck lol).

Just checked and insurance is very little difference here.
Surprised you found the 650 heavier, mine is the adventure as well.

What's the TA you have on the 650?

In Canada we get screwed on insurance so it is a big issue for us when comparing bikes! I was paying around 100 a month I believe on the Vstrom 1000.

I put about 20k a year on so the mileage certainly added up along with the premium but again we get screwed on gas prices, it's right around 4 bucks a gallon here right now.

I do miss the 1000 for 2 up riding!

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Terry Adcox seat. I may need one on the 1000 eventually.

Noisier than the 650? It definitely is quieter than mine right now.

$4 a gallon sux. We nearly got about to that once a few years back.

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SECoda, what did you write on the contract with the dealer regarding the ECU?

You stole the bike! My local dealer won't budget below $9500 for a non-ADV model....
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