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post #1 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
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To Vee2 or not to Vee2 ??

I bought a nicely farkled 2012 DL650 a couple of years back and it has been a good reliable and comfortable bike. I don't own a car and use the bike every weekend to travel to visit my family or my partner. Both are located 2 or 3 hours of freeway riding from where I live. So the bulk of my riding is sitting at 110 km/h on the freeway. Plus I do regular long distance touring jaunts. Very minimal city riding as I live in a rural part of Australia. I have been wondering if a 2015 DL1000 would be a worthwhile upgrade for my mostly freeway and country road riding requirements. I guess I would clock up about 20000 km per year on a bike. I have also been looking into other options also such as an R1200GS or a Triumph Tiger 1050. Just seeking a bike which would purr along happily for hours on the freeway and do good solid days of blacktop touring. It seems the more I read about the 2014/15 DL1000's, the more I hear about engine issues affecting quite a few owner such as the idle knocking issue and ECU issues. Is it worthwhile looking seriously at upgrading to a Vee2 or is it worth sticking with the DL650 for a while yet until Suzuki fine-tune the identified Vee2 engine issues ? Thanks to all of the advice provided by the regulars on this forum, I have been a long time lurker and really appreciate the wisdom I have gained from the Strom community on here.
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post #2 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 04:26 AM
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It sounds as though the 2016 will have all the fixes in place, with new ECU, wiring harness sorted, rear rack up to spec. If you purchase an older model all of these items may be swapped out and you save a bundle of money. The ECU seems to be one item that you have to fight to get in some areas, but not everywhere.

It is an amazing bike though, despite these annoyances, but really the choice is yours to make. How important is it to you to save 10 grand? Or 5 grand? If money is no object then there are a lot of bikes out there to choose from. I doubt you will find one that doesn't have some issues with it.
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post #3 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 12:42 PM
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Given your intended use, what would you gain by upgrading to a V2?? The W2 you have will do the freeway trips (110 km/h) as well as the V2 with more kpg. You never said you wanted any of the great things that the V2 does, you only worried about engine issues. Personally, I'd stay with the 2012 650, I've ridden one, it's a great bike. On the other hand, have you considered a more freeway oriented bike, of which there are many, like the FJR, etc.??

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post #4 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 06:30 PM
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I find the V2 a LOT more comfortable on the freeway, it revs so much lower! at 110 you'll barely be in 6th gear. For he kind of riding you describe though, something like a honda st1300 sounds about perfect.

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post #5 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 06:50 PM
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I would have to agree about the Honda ST1300 possibly fitting your needs a bit better. Had an 06 for 5 yrs, and it is mostly unsurpassed for comfortably just eating miles comfortably, with the added benefits of performance and pretty fair fuel economy. Huge tank has long legs. Only switched to the Strom to take advantage of some of the unimproved roads to be taken that I had to pass by on the ST.
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post #6 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 07:45 PM
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Based on what the OP said I don't see any reason to change bikes.. the 2012 DL650 will do what he is doing forever with no issues.

If he WANTS to upgrade that's the different situation. The DL1000 issue are largely overstated. The recalls take care of all the issues and the bike is a blast to ride.

As for the ST13000: it's a great bike if you want the weight and the ergos of a sport Tourer. I spent a week on one in Jan of 2012 and, while I enjoyed riding it, I couldn't wait to get back on my 2006 DL650 that was waiting at home (with over 125,000 miles at the time) or my new 2012 DL650 that was just waiting for me to bring home.


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Vee or V= DL1000 before 2014
Vee2 or V2 = DL1000 2015 to 2019
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post #7 of 11 Old 02-21-2016, 10:57 PM
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I have a 2015 with no issues what so ever. No knocking or mapping issues. Just works great! Love it.

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post #8 of 11 Old 02-22-2016, 12:20 AM
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Don't forget the Caponord, Stelvio, Multistrada, 1200GS, Super Tenere, Tiger, Transalp...

The DL1000A is a lot better than the DL650A in every way except the price tag.

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post #9 of 11 Old 02-22-2016, 05:01 AM Thread Starter
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Currently here in Australia I am seeing a few new 2015 v2's now selling for around 13 or 14 k, which is quite a saving on the 17k rrp. So there is a bit of temptation to upgrade. However I have been wary due to the engine issues being reported. It is good to hear that the recalls are sorting out the identified issues and also that some owners are not encountering any of them. There's still very few used v2's making it onto the market here seeing as they are still quite new. Although I do most of my riding on sealed roads, I do occasionally venture onto gravel, so a v2 would still be a better choice for me than a sports tourer. And a litre bike would chew up the freeway kms quite happily. So thank you all who have provided feedback and reassurance on the v2. I think I will be taking the plunge soon, as I should still be able to get a reasonable price for my wee2 on the used market here, and it seems that many others who have upgraded from a wee2 to a v2 have not regretted their decision.
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post #10 of 11 Old 02-22-2016, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by two_wheels View Post
However I have been wary due to the engine issues being reported.

Please, do share. I own a V2 and spend a lot of my spare time on this site. Never heard of engine issues on the V2. I heard of the ECU issue if that's what you're referring to but I wouldn't even call that an issue at this time.

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