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post #1 of 27 Old 10-30-2015, 09:59 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation 2014 DL1000 Engine knock...what is going on?

Hey everybody, new to the site...just joined to see how many of you have had a similar problem such as mine. I have a '14 Storm and I just changed the oil in it at the 600 mile service, myself. Took it on a ride and noticed that there is a very distinct knock in the motor, even at idle and under load. Not going to ride it until I get a hold of the dealer, I just got it about a month ago. I would like to go in a little more informed before I talk to them about it, so any help is greatly appreciated.

The sound is like piston slap. Before the oil change, it was completely quiet, (as quite as these are). I KNOW what these are supposed to sound like, this is not my first Suzuki twin, but this noise is bad enough to make me want to trailer it to my dealer.

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Do a search for "idle hammer". Short answer is just ride it. I think someone makes a cure but you have to take the engine apart? Disclaimer: I've never dealt with this problem.

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Do a search for "idle hammer". Short answer is just ride it. I think someone makes a cure but you have to take the engine apart? Disclaimer: I've never dealt with this problem.
Thanks, G-DUB...but here's the issue, the knock isn't just at idle, and all through the RPM range...this is really driving me nuts. I think my KLR 650 might make less noise than this thing does now.

Thanks for the help
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Definitely not right.
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Thanks, G-DUB...but here's the issue, the knock isn't just at idle, and all through the RPM range...this is really driving me nuts. I think my KLR 650 might make less noise than this thing does now.

Thanks for the help
Don't know about that problem, hopefully someone on here has suggestions.

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Let's hear it. Take a video and post it.
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post #7 of 27 Old 10-31-2015, 12:52 PM
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I agree with Rob. If it's truly that bad it should show in a video.

The 600 mile service knock is normal, but if you really think it's worse than it should be then by all means get it looked at.

With nothing else to go on, my guess is that currently there is nothing wrong with your engine.

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I just bought a 2014 DL1000A two weeks ago. After first service I noticed it knocking when warm. No knock until it warms up. Took it to dealer and they said it was the clutch basket. It goes away at approx 2000 RPM, or in gear loaded up (brakes on).

Dealer said that the high moly break-in oil prevented it, and maybe different oil would help. So I went and changed out to full synthetic Castrol 20-50, maybe a bit more quiet, but not much.

Put on 2200 miles in the past 10 days. Annoying knock at idle is disconcerting. I will be taking to the dealer as soon as I do more research. It's the ONLY thing I don't like about this bike, and don't feel I should have to live with a loud knock at idle.
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I just bought a 2014 DL1000A two weeks ago. After first service I noticed it knocking when warm. No knock until it warms up. Took it to dealer and they said it was the clutch basket. It goes away at approx 2000 RPM, or in gear loaded up (brakes on).

Dealer said that the high moly break-in oil prevented it, and maybe different oil would help. So I went and changed out to full synthetic Castrol 20-50, maybe a bit more quiet, but not much.

Put on 2200 miles in the past 10 days. Annoying knock at idle is disconcerting. I will be taking to the dealer as soon as I do more research. It's the ONLY thing I don't like about this bike, and don't feel I should have to live with a loud knock at idle.
There can be noises coming from a clutch basket, or at least they are easy to blame on a clutch basket as the noise changes when you pull in the clutch lever. Since your new Vee just had the first service, there is no way the clutch basket is making hardly any noise as there is no real wear in it yet. It is mainly transmission noises from the bearings, gears, and shafts spinning at idle. They slow down or stop when the clutch lever is pulled in. More of a mechanical metallic sound from the clutch basket and transmission.

There is a connection between first oil change and the idle hammer noise. I cannot say it has to do with the type of oil from the factory, but it seems too common that the noise is first heard after the first service. Yes, 20-50 oil softens the noise. If the "high moly" oil prevented it from the factory, you can bet someone has tried that kind of oil since then. I have heard no positive results about it.

It is a known character trait of these engines. I have been watching this for years and have NEVER heard of any mechanical failures or problems coming from it. I think the new generation Vee is quieter overall than the older ones and perhaps the noise is more obvious.

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It has also been suggested that the noise may go away or become less prominent as the cam chain tensioner does it's thing.
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