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post #11 of 20 Old 03-19-2015, 11:03 PM
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Yep, it's kinda funny. We wear black clothing, boots, helmets, and pay money to add lights to be seen. Actually... I guess I added them because they look cool.
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I'm not one for spending a lot on aftermarket lights but have you seen this site?
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These lights are so cheap I am wondering if they are any good. Of course it wouldn't be a great loss if they are not.
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I have some of those lights sitting on shelf with other less than useful products we have evaluated.

Beware these Motorcycle Headlight Conversion Motorcycle LED Headlamps Super Bright Lighting-Gold - USD $ 43.99

and these Marsing CREE XM-L U2 24W 1500lm Waterproof 3-Mode 6500K White Light Motorcycle LED Bulb (12-60V) - USD $ 18.74

While they look great in the ads, the beam is too narrow to be of any use on a motorcycle. The beam is very "laser pen" like. They come in a box marked "Transformers."

Also be aware that not all LED elements have equal output for the power consumed. Right now the American company CREE has the highest output per watt by far. Epistar of Taiwan is in second place at about 80 to 90% of the CREE output per watt. The generic Chinese elements run about 1/2 the output of the better lights. And most importantly, zillions of Chinese LEDs are sold claiming to have CREE elements that actually contain copies of copies of copies of the Chinese elements.

Also, while many lights you see look the same, there are Chinese companies that sell housing molds to the other Chinese companies, who in turn make identical looking light housings. These companies put their choice of circuitry, wiring, heat sink compound, and LED elements in the housings. And,...sadly... a very high percentage claim to have CREE elements that use the generic Chinese elements.

I know this paints a scary picture for the consumer, but on the bright side, some VERY expensive lights are repackaged with off the shelf wiring harnesses and off the shelf lights from some of these manufacturers. Yes, Dhose lights.

The mark up is horrendous. Every time I see someone post pics of Dhose lights I cringe at the money wasted and the ability of advertising to get insane profit levels out of the consumer.

Getting back to the cheap Chinese lights, the cheapest 10 watt broad beam (flood) lights do serve well to be seen by others. Based on reports by others, the failure rate appears to be slightly more than 1 out of 4 within a year. If it lasts a year it's probably good for many years. That's not too bad considering the cost.

We have evaluated many lights and do offer high quality CREE LED light kits with off the shelf wiring harnesses remarkably similar to other much more expensive light kits.

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I'm not one for spending a lot on aftermarket lights but have you seen this site?
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These lights are so cheap I am wondering if they are any good. Of course it wouldn't be a great loss if they are not.
Looking at the site you've posted the link to, I've found the pair that I use as DRL's (no way you could use them at night).
12-80V 12W Motorcycle LED headlight (With Fixture and External Drive) - USD $ 9.99
The only difference is that mines are in black and were more or less the same price. They've seen many miles and had no problems at all.

2017 DL1000 White
2014 DL1000 Red (sold)
2012 DL650 White (sold)
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It was the Marsing I was looking at, Rick. They look solid, the pricing just scares you away. But, seriously, some of them under $10? Do they even work?
I put these on my last bike and they were excellent and in my sort of price range.
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In my experience, yes they work.

The big differences show up in reliability and light output. For example, the amazon.com lights http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

.... that have been posted to Stromtroopers. They put out about 550 lumen. Useful for additional daylight lighting, but not so much at night. They almost certainly do not actually contain CREE elements.

I am fairly certain that many people post that they are happy with them after installation, but don't come back to report that they failed prematurely. I hear it a lot though in phone conversations from people looking for better lights. And of course if someone has had them and they haven't failed they will come to their defense.

I see them as useful if they fit your purpose and considering carrying them myself every once in a while, but then for what ever reason always decide not to.

Some real savings can be had with lights similar to the Denali D4s. The D4s are unique in that they have both 2 flood and 2 spot 5 watt elements for a total of 20 watts per light. However, similar lights are available that could be easily sold for $100 a pair vs $309 for the D4s. The difference being that they would have four 5 watt euro beams instead of 2 floods or two spots. I will probably carry these later this year, but need to find a good crash bar clamp to go with them.

And, just like in the earlier discussion, you can find similar looking lights with Chinese LEDs for much less. The mondo moto lights are another example. That housing is used by many Chinese companies. So it can appear that the light is available from many sources (and probably is), but you don't know about the circuitry, element, heat sink compound from one to the next.

One thing is for certain. Ds are grossly over priced.
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I* can't find the adv link anywhere

can you help
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I'm not one for spending a lot on aftermarket lights but have you seen this site?
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These lights are so cheap I am wondering if they are any good. Of course it wouldn't be a great loss if they are not.
I have two sets of chinese leds lights, used them in various weather, over several thousand kms, they are flawless.

At the end of the day, chinese or chinese rebrand, my stuff works, at a fraction of the price.

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I could not find your thread
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I have a set of these on my 05 DL 1000 and they are awesome.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have some Givi S310s on my 14 DL 1000 that I will be replacing soon.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...en-spot-lights


I will be replacing them with these which I found on snagshout for 11 bucks. I will address some moisture issues to make sure they are as sealed up as the ones I have been running for years on my O5
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