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post #1 of 225 Old 06-08-2014, 04:18 PM Thread Starter
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Chudder/Clack,Clack

Turns out I was in the wrong section and wrote this. Decided to move it over here anyhoo.

Is chudder clack, clack? Yes, I am speaking English. Question is because I have it. And, I know the general consensus is just live with it but I guess I want to know why, for the first 1000 kms it wasn't there and now it is. So, it's loosened up? Why? Sounds to me like there will be wear happiung there with a noise like that. And, it is definitely the clutch as I can lean out and hear it quite plainly thru the cover. And I pull the lever and it diminishes. Doesn't entirely go away, just diminishes. And, at idle speed thru the city it is there till I gas it.
Just curious. Won't bother if I don't have to but I could live without it.
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Is it making noise while the clutch is out and you are underway?
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post #3 of 225 Old 06-09-2014, 04:48 PM
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Knocking noise

At just over 600 miles, my Vee2 has started making what I thought was the infamous idle hammer. It does diminish a little as I pull in the clutch. It almost disappears when I put a load on the engine. Mine was running like a large sewing machine, it was fabulous and a joy to ride. Now, when it has warmed up and I come to a stop, it sounds like a paint shaker.

I am disgusted. I loved it at first, now I don't even want to get on it. It would be nice if Suzuki would fix the ones that do this. In my opinion, it is a manufacturing defect. Can anything be done?
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Well, I am not THAT disgusted by it. But am curious. This morning when I started it up cold there was no sign of the noise. After warming up it was there. Logic, Mr. Spock, suggests that when cold, the parts have not expanded. The oil is also thicker. So, warmed up, thinner oil allows for loose parts to clack. But why loose parts? different expansion rates between different metals? Inquiring minds want to know, daddio.:bom_beatnik:
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Chudder can be tested by slightly loading the clutch lever under the circumstances where it shows up (1st gen 1000 was 3-4k rpm). If it goes away , then it is from the clutch basket. As for Idle hammer , mine too (2012) was sewing machine quiet till about 5,000 miles. Now I have the knocking sound at idle when hot , that goes away with the clutch pulled in. Wasn't happy at first , now I just smile inside and think of it in the same light the dry clutch Ducati guys must think of their motors at a stop sign. Once you view it as "character" , the feelings of disappointment go away.

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I have about 1000 miles and noticed some weird noises at times, around idle/low rpms. It's not often- I think it's the clutch mgmnt system doing it's thing. Will continue to monitor but the bike is still a joy. This bike is a big deal for Suzuki, I'm sure it's well tested- I know I tested the heck out of it at Americade all weekend. It might just be the nature of the beast. We shall see.
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Cannot believe that sound bothers y'all so much. And there is no clutch chudder, but obviously there is still a slight idle hammer. I will also guess it became more pronounced after the first oil change. Run a mix of half 10W40 and 20W50, that is what I regularly do and it quiets things down quite a bit.

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Cannot believe that sound bothers y'all so much. And there is no clutch chudder, but obviously there is still a slight idle hammer. I will also guess it became more pronounced after the first oil change. Run a mix of half 10W40 and 20W50, that is what I regularly do and it quiets things down quite a bit.
How can you say there is no clutch chudder? Have you personally gone to look at the bikes who claim to have this problem?
We have all heard your rants about people who are turned off by the sound, let them talk about. Not all of us like the sound of a big knocking vtwin, if that was the case we would all be riding sportsters.

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How can you say there is no clutch chudder? Have you personally gone to look at the bikes who claim to have this problem?
We have all heard your rants about people who are turned off by the sound, let them talk about. Not all of us like the sound of a big knocking vtwin, if that was the case we would all be riding sportsters.
I was educated by PM from somebody who knows allot more than I do, so I recede my questioning of the potential clutch chudder on the new 1000. However the idle hammer is harmless, and you will not totally resolve that issue unless Suzuki does it at the factory. My 06 does not hammer, so it is obviously a hit or miss problem. Suzuki made a controversial choice to use basically the same engine with some nice mods, but in hindsight it might come back to bite them in the ass.

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I have 1500 miles on mine and the idle hammer is fairly pronounced. I am irritated by it and disappointed, but overall I love the bike and just had a great 3-day 1000 mile experience including lots of riding around TN, NC area in the mountains. For now I will keep riding it, and once there is more of an experience base about the issue and some data on what Suzuki is able to do for folks that take their bikes back, I'll decide what action to take.

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