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post #1 of 43 Old 04-13-2014, 04:33 PM Thread Starter
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Well I got to see the new Vee and was impressed with how it felt to sit on and liked the looks. Now the ? For me is do I but it or spend 4 grand more and buy the KTM 1190. I have demo'd the KTM and is the most amazing bike I've ever ridden. But it does have lots of electronics to give issues over time. But it is a bad ass bike to ride. I wish suzuki had demo rides around here like KTM does. Decisions decisions.

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i was in a local dealer yesterday and was sitting on a ktm 1190 and really liked as well. Was talking to salesman and he said when you bring it in for its first service you had better have about 1400.00 bucks in your pocket. i guess everything is expensive and he said its exotic bike like ducati. Just what i was told.
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The KTM is bad ass until it leaves you stranded one too many times or has things breaking or failing that shouldn't, I will keep buying the more dependable Japanese machines.
Big B has a solid point on the build. I would rather have the new Strom than the KTM.

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Do you want it to run some of the time, be fun some of the time, or have it run and be fun all of the time? For less money. KTM, Austrian for Kosts too much. Seriously, unless you are crossing the desert, are you going to utilize the dirt aspect of the bike that much? I mean, you could, but just asking. I realize the Strom won't do anything as well as the KTM, but like Brian says, it will run cheaply and reliably. Not sure about the KTM; I guess it might. I think I'd save the four grand myself, unless my pockets were large, which they are not.

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Do you want it to run some of the time, be fun some of the time, or have it run and be fun all of the time? For less money. KTM, Austrian for Kosts too much. Seriously, unless you are crossing the desert, are you going to utilize the dirt aspect of the bike that much? I mean, you could, but just asking. I realize the Strom won't do anything as well as the KTM, but like Brian says, it will run cheaply and reliably. Not sure about the KTM; I guess it might. I think I'd save the four grand myself, unless my pockets were large, which they are not.
Read up on the KTM a little and you will find that there are 2 versions the standard is the one with 17-19 inch wheel combo like the Vee and the R has the 18-21 more off road oriented. They also have different suspension setups as far as how they are adjusted.

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i was in a local dealer yesterday and was sitting on a ktm 1190 and really liked as well. Was talking to salesman and he said when you bring it in for its first service you had better have about 1400.00 bucks in your pocket. i guess everything is expensive and he said its exotic bike like ducati. Just what i was told.
I'm sure it is if you are a dealership service oriented owner, same with a BMW. I'm not going to have ANY new bike I buy serviced at the dealer so they can charge what they want.

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Well I got to see the new Vee and was impressed with how it felt to sit on and liked the looks. Now the ? For me is do I but it or spend 4 grand more and buy the KTM 1190. I have demo'd the KTM and is the most amazing bike I've ever ridden. But it does have lots of electronics to give issues over time. But it is a bad ass bike to ride. I wish suzuki had demo rides around here like KTM does. Decisions decisions.
I was exactly in the same position. On my first test ride, I felt in love with the ktm. Bad ass bike it is, and very exciting to ride. Then I test rode the Vee2. I was impressed by the low end torque, but I said to myself "it's not the ktm".

Then I test rode the ktm a second time. The first "crazy wow" was passed, and I fully realized that the amazing power of the ktm was in the mid to the higher rpm range. I was playing with it in some country roads going up to 180 km\h and having fun. Back on the highway, I was crusing at 130 km\h and I felt almost like I was going 80. Then I said to myself: this bike is either going to get me killed, or I will lose my drivers licence...

I went to test ride the vee2 a second time, convinced that it was not as fun as the ktm. Then I started to play with the Vee2 like I did with the ktm, on the same roads, but using the low end torque, and I said to myself: this thing is fun, and fun "sooner" compared to the ktm. Yes It doesn't have that kick in the ass after 6000 rpm, but I was still having fun. When I was taking the entrance to the highway, I remember I was a little disappointed to notice that I was reaching the end of the throttle, but I was at 140km/h on the 3rd gear and when changing gear I reached easily 180 km/h on the 6th.

Also, when I was thinking about buying the ktm, I was already searching for options for replacing the seat, a solution to deal with the handlebar vibrations, and another solution to deal with the heat coming from the engine at very low speed...

In conclusion, the ktm starts to be crazy fun when the Vee2 starts to look a bit after its breath, but at this point you're already riding at speed that can make you lose your head or your licence. Yes, riding an europeen bike compared to a jap one is a different experience in terms of feeling of quality. But that comes with a price, both when you buy it and when you're doing the maintenance.

A friend of mine, who is a pro rider, said to me: I prefer having a lower powered bike and push it to its limit than having a higher powered bike and feel that the bike is way more capable than me. So, I put a deposit on a Vee2 and I will pick it up next week. I'm planning a 5 weeks ride this summer with some of the money I saved over the ktm.

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I was exactly in the same position. On my first test ride, I felt in love with the ktm. Bad ass bike it is, and very exciting to ride...

...Also, when I was thinking about buying the ktm, I was already searching for options for replacing the seat, a solution to deal with the handlebar vibrations, and another solution to deal with the heat coming from the engine at very low speed...

...A friend of mine, who is a pro rider, said to me: I prefer having a lower powered bike and push it to its limit than having a higher powered bike and feel that the bike is way more capable than me.
I concur with these 3 statements after a KTM 1190 test drive. Also a longer reach to the bars on the KTM.
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to me, pushing a lower powered bike to its limit includes revving up to red-line before shifting, like 10,000+ rpm on a Wee. I don't understand what pushing the Vee2 power to the limit even means. Using abundant mid-range torque is fun, but not what I call pushing a lower powered bike to its limit. Your friend prefers the lower powered bike because it is more fun. There is just no way I can see the Vee2 being more fun than the 1190, even under the speed limit. I can see the DL650 being more fun than the Vee2, but the 650 is just too slow for some riders.

The Vee2 is the sensible choice and a good compromise overall. But will it be boring a year or two down the line?
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