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post #1 of 29 Old 02-12-2014, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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2014 Clutch Basket

Since the 2014 models are being produced ( if not in customers hands just yet ) and it is advertised as having an all new clutch I think we are possibly seeing the new basket as a standard replacement part in all 1000 V Stroms. Most of the new clutch components are obviously completely new, but the clutch basket looks like the old one, even has the same numbers on it. I think this video might have some insight to the new clutch basket?

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Thanks for making the video! It certainly looks like Suzuki is aware of the issue but has left some market share for you. I'm surprised to see how much slop is still there. Why would they leave any???

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I spoke with my dealer; 2 different part numbers. The previous basket is a 21200-06811 cost $340CDN. The 2014 basket is 21200-31Y10 cost $440CDN.

I should go to the dealer and look at the images.
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Really stupid question: why would one measure the window openings with a telescoping gage instead of just using the ears on the caliper to measure them directly?
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Maybe he likes an excuse to use more of his fancy specialty tools? I know I am always looking for a reason to use some of mine!

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Really stupid question: why would one measure the window openings with a telescoping gage instead of just using the ears on the caliper to measure them directly?
That would have worked fine! But, I am used to using the telescopic gauges all day long on the bearings. The real reason is the the telescopic is easier to get a true reading as the "old" basket has deformed areas from the springs being embedded into it. The gauges allow you to measure a clean, unblemished area.

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WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
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I spoke with my dealer; 2 different part numbers. The previous basket is a 21200-06811 cost $340CDN. The 2014 basket is 21200-31Y10 cost $440CDN.

I should go to the dealer and look at the images.
I ran the part number and it came up on an exploded view with part numbers. Not yet available. VERY interesting that is has this different part number! The one seen in the prototype bike certainly appear the same and have some of the same casting numbers. BUT....if they put different springs or any other small change they might have made will force a different part number. We'll just have to wait and see what the difference is. Not sure how there could be that much difference in cost? Thanks for posting that info!

'12 DL 650 '14 BMW R 1200 RT

WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
The BEST in chudder control, noise control, and lasting durability! AVAILABLE HERE: www.werksparts.com

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It makes no sense...

It makes NO sense to me that Suzuki would not fix their clutch basket issue(s). With the first batch, back in 02 causing problems, they could not afford to make the same error. With the internet and all the blogs it would be..."the kiss of death."

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It makes NO sense to me that Suzuki would not fix their clutch basket issue(s). With the first batch, back in 02 causing problems, they could not afford to make the same error. With the internet and all the blogs it would be..."the kiss of death."
They may have made some changes in quality after the part number changed between the 2005 and 2006 model years, even though the part number hasn't changed again until the new 2014 engine. Slipping in minor quality improvements while keeping the same part number, if that's what actually happened, may have merely been a way to field test an improved basket casting for the 2014 release during the 2012 model year while at the same time improving the future stock of replacement clutch baskets for those of us with 2002 - 2011 machines. It also avoided the hassle and expense of issuing updated parts fiche.

The only way that we'll know for sure is if someone obtains virgin clutch basket assemblies from representative model years, opens them up and goes through them with the eye of a forensic engineer... or if someone at Suzuki releases the ECN (engineering change notification) history of the part. Neither is likely to happen.

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I ran the part number and it came up on an exploded view with part numbers. Not yet available. VERY interesting that is has this different part number! The one seen in the prototype bike certainly appear the same and have some of the same casting numbers. BUT....if they put different springs or any other small change they might have made will force a different part number. We'll just have to wait and see what the difference is. Not sure how there could be that much difference in cost? Thanks for posting that info!
Anytime!!!..I agree there is more to the issue - Suzuki claims there is increased inertia in the new engine,...would make sense they want to "tune-out" the resonance which is the contributor to the shudder. The springs and their clearance may well be part of the solution. The videos of the new bike/engine have Suzuki exclaiming several times they addressed vibration.
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