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post #1 of 26 Old 01-27-2014, 08:36 PM Thread Starter
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I don't what to start a big o thing here..

I did not own a strom till a few years back. Im on a 04 wee. its been a great bike. no problems or regrets.

but being that I came to the strom many years after its introduction, I am wondering how it was marketed when it was new? the reason I ask is, while I can ride it offroad, I do find it harder to control. its a little of everything, tires, suspintion, weight, maybe could be a little better or better setup for dirt. I have and do ride it off road but like i said its a little hard to control.

now knowing what I know about the 650, as I have been ridding it everyday except for about 2 months in winter, and I didnt ride when I was dealing with a spinal. tracktion for months and no fun at all

suzuki says this is not an duel sport.. or its not really for offroad. is that what they say or said about stroms in general (2002 to present)? or is this a new attitude for the strom 1000 2014? i am also a little confused by the some of the dirt bike rags doing reviews of the bike if the maker clearly says its not an offroad bike..

again not saying the bike is or isnt suited for dirt. suzuki says its not and im a little ... i dont know concerned i guess? i get that if you know what your doing you can ride a goldwing down jeep trails. so..

why.. is suzuki saying what they are saying? how can they market this bike as a duel sport .. when they say no dirt? does duel mean pavemnt and blacktop? cause its not a sport bike.. fun to ride im sure but not in any way a sport bike.

im not saying ... im just saying..

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Everything is about marketing, but more is about the rider than the bike anyways. Is a GS "honestly" a good or wise choice for doing offroad either? I like the term adventure bike more than anything else, because they do a little of this and a little of that, and are very flexible and tougher than the majority of other street legal motorcycles. A bit like the saying "ride to live, live to ride" we all know that is not always the case for that particular owners group.

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I agree the 1200 GS is also to big and heavy to be a "real" offroad bike. but BMW does market it as a duel sport adventure bike that is made to take off road.. bmws have their issues, mechanical, electrical, bla bla bla.. but their intent is to make a adventure bike that can go offroad.

suzuki is saying.. this not what the 1000 2014 is for.. and I guess I dont get it..

maybe its me.. I think duel sport that means it is made to take on more than one kind of road to some degree or another.
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I agree the 1200 GS is also to big and heavy to be a "real" offroad bike. but BMW does market it as a duel sport adventure bike that is made to take off road.. bmws have their issues, mechanical, electrical, bla bla bla.. but their intent is to make a adventure bike that can go offroad.

suzuki is saying.. this not what the 1000 2014 is for.. and I guess I dont get it..

maybe its me.. I think duel sport that means it is made to take on more than one kind of road to some degree or another.

And that is a Strom to a T.

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I'm not quite getting this....

are you saying that Suzuki lied to you when they marketed the bike to the original owner as an 'adventure' bike?

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Where are you seeing that Suzuki is not calling the V-Strom 1000 a dual-sport? On their website and other literature they actually put it in three categories: Dual-Sport, Touring, and Adventure Touring. I think the point they are making is that it's a very versatile bike and will accommodate many types of riders. It's definitely designed to handle some off-road duty, so I think it can easily fit into the Dual-Sport category. But I think it fits best in the "Adventure Touring" category.

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I think they came to what it is based on deduction, as opposed to targeting...
It certainly isn't a sport or sport/tourer, even if it has sporty lines, since it accommodates more suspension travel, and has better clearance than either, and *can* easily handle fire roads, gravel (and a lot more if you've watched that Greek Strom rider with the brass set)... It's not a dirt bike since it doesn't have *all* that clearance (and it's a 4-stroke), and it's a hella lot more comfortable... It's not a grand tourer (thank goodness), since it's much lighter, more 'spritely' and flickable, and performs much better in the twisties... And, it's absolutely not an iron cruiser, since it can lean significantly more without grabbing the pegs, and doesn't vibrate your teeth out, even if it can cruise with the best of them...

So... that pretty much leaves dual-sport... Closest to what it fits...

Although, I'm with Big B... I like the "adventure" moniker...

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Mine will be going off the road!!.

It's your bike, do what you want with it, and I more than know that the new VEE II will be as capable off the black stuff as any other bike in the adventure category.

It may not be as hardcore as say the 1190R or R1200GS, but you will only be limited by your skills and your sense of adventure.

Most naysayers say that the current 650 is not a capable off road bike, but it has never failed to take me where I want to go

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suzuki says this is not an duel sport.. or its not really for offroad. is that what they say or said about stroms in general (2002 to present)? or is this a new attitude for the strom 1000 2014? i am also a little confused by the some of the dirt bike rags doing reviews of the bike if the maker clearly says its not an offroad bike..
They (being Suzuki Japan) have always called the 1000's a "Sport Adventure Tourer"

So assume they make them a bit sporty, and able to tour and have some Adventure.

Not as sporty as an Gixxer, Not as tourey as a Goldwing and not as offroady as a DRZ.

Now you can make what you will of "Sport Adventure Tourer".

The importers will call them whatever they think will appeal to the natives.

The bike does what the bike does, and you are as talented as you are.

The 2007 Vee Strom I owned I wouldn't have called "in it's element" off road, but it did it in a concentration sapping way. And it didn't snap in half or break things, like some others do.

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Tip of South America and...back!

Once-upon-A-Time I read a detailed ride report, on ADVrider, about a guy who went to the tip of South America and back riding a v-strom 1000. His friend rode a 650 Versy. I guess these bikes are what one sees in them.
A while back they had an article, in one of the bike magazines, with all the Adventure style bikes on the cover, calling the asphalt adventure bikes. I think that pretty much sums the whole issue up in a nut shell.
I am sure that you can take the new 1000, put adequate crash bars, skid plate(s), tires, etc., and go for a nice trail ride. As noted a thousand time at this site make sure you have a few people with you to pick it up when you fall...and we ALL do!
So, I guess the point of all of this is, if you like the new V-Strom 1000 buy it. I am sure it will be one of the most dependable bikes you will ever own. Fastest...no! Best handling...no! Most adventure looking...no! A very nice bike for the $$$$...yes! And if you park in at Starbucks and walk in with all your gear 99.9% of the people there will think it is the NEW BMW. Just tell them that you just came in from Alaska...and are headed for the Keys as soon as it gets above 10F...and you will probably end up on someone's facebook page. You might even get a free cup of coffee!

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